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Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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They're also bringing the subscription pricing model...

I'd much rather pay $50/year and get perpetual updates than the old price of $199 one time. Yes, I'd rather pay $5 one time and get free updates forever, but I just can't see complaining about $4/month for anything I get ongoing value from.

You like losing access when you cancel the subscription?

Or when an older device is cut off from the app store?

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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I’m sorry but not even the actors in the promo video in this announcement can sell the idea that video editing on a touch device is a good idea. No professional video editor will use Final Cut on the iPad. It’s horribly ineffcient. It feels like Apple has no idea what to do with the iPad Pro. The product hasn’t evolved at all since 2018.

No serious professional wants to use FCP in the first place.

Aww, that's not true. Serious professionals want to use FCP 7.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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The iPad is no longer touch-only. Since Apple added support for pencil, mouse/trackpad and brought out more keyboards, the iPad is a multi-model input device.

True but it's not very good as a laptop replacement. It's much more expensive than an Air and can't run the same apps. While doing my research it seemed a lot of people either already had a laptop or preferred to have a laptop if they had to pick one. This is coming from a Surface 5 user - I gave up eventually because it was never powerful enough, but it is a much better approach to multi-input laptop replacement sin…

It is not a laptop replacement. And apple does not design it to be one. It's a very nice device to have next to your Mac Studio / Mac Pro to do your work while not at your desk. The creative possibilities of the iPad are spectacular. The ease of maintaining one is 100x bigger than a notebook.

it's simply another type of device, not a replacement.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd much rather pay $50/year and get perpetual updates than the old price of $199 one time. Yes, I'd rather pay $5 one time and get free updates forever, but I just can't see complaining about $4/month for anything I get ongoing value from.

You like losing access when you cancel the subscription? Or when an older device is cut off from the app store?

what older device is cut off from the app store? you get to keep that version that you have and the subscription will go on.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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I'm positively surprised by the pricing. While I still prefer outright buying apps instead of subscriptions, last time I paid €230 for Logic on desktop (and it used to cost even more), this new sub would take four years to match that. This massively lowers the cost of entry especially for countries with devalued currency against the USD.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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> It feels like Apple has no idea what to do with the iPad Pro. 100% this. I have an iPad Pro. If I want to plug it into a projector via USBC or a Dock I must ALSO connect a Bluetooth speaker device as the iPad will not allow use the internal speakers on the iPad while connected to an external _display_ fucking madness.

yeah, because you want to use the internal speaker while watching the video on a projector screen ... I understand what you are saying, and it sucks indeed, but there are other systems that have exactly the same 'problem' and in real life this is a problem for the minority of people. apple sells to the masses, and they will do what the majority of the people want/need/use. Sure, it sux if you dont fit in that group,…

It's a problem for anyone trying to give a presentation in an educational or office environment - local sound solutions on projectors in small offices and small classrooms are often (probably 70% of the time in my experience) non functional.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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I’m sorry but not even the actors in the promo video in this announcement can sell the idea that video editing on a touch device is a good idea. No professional video editor will use Final Cut on the iPad. It’s horribly ineffcient. It feels like Apple has no idea what to do with the iPad Pro. The product hasn’t evolved at all since 2018.

Have you seen the magic keyboard accessory? With the trackpad and keyboard?

At the ridiculous price they are charging for it, it might as well not exist.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Neat....although sad that it's via a subscription model, rather than buying the program outright.

That said, what's the point of this? Everyone works off laptops already, even people new to A/V production. Especially in the audio world, laptops are just so much more convenient because you can host 3rd party plugins and other stuff like sample libraries. Can't do that on an iPad, can you?

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Having a full DAW on the go is a killer feature imho. The promise has been there since stuff like 8tracks on the iPhone 3G, and various Audio Units already on iOS. But I’ve always found the workflow very limiting or clunky. (Edit: I’m a Logic Pro user on macOS so my comments reflect getting things into that specifically) The divide from putting down an idea when it hits, to working it into something, has always been…

> Having a full DAW on the go is a killer feature imho. Macbook?

I guess I should expand why not a laptop, but it boils down to removing lots of little friction points that make ephemeral ideas harder to put down.

1. Touch first is important because your instruments are touch as well. Being able to record my live instruments and not have to switch to a trackpad to move between UI elements seems small, but it really keeps me in the zone.

2. Same point above, but basically being able to switch between my live instrument and an on screen virtual one is a big deal to layer up an idea. Can’t do that easily with a trackpad or mouse.

3. There’s something to be said for the mobile platforms single app as a focus model. I know you can full screen a Mac app, or split screen on an iPad, but having a singular focus helps reduce distractions.

4. Weight/portability are quite different. Maybe a MacBook Air would be better, but I take my iPad Pro to more places with me than I take my much heavier MacBook Pro . I’m already taking it to draw on the go, so this is just one more thing I can do without needing to buy a new device or take a heavier one.

Edit: oh and number 5 is a big one. I can put my iPad Pro in my existing music stand that works for me at multiple heigh levels. There are laptop stands that might work too, but I already use my iPad for sheet music, so it’s already a convenient setup.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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> It feels like Apple has no idea what to do with the iPad Pro. 100% this. I have an iPad Pro. If I want to plug it into a projector via USBC or a Dock I must ALSO connect a Bluetooth speaker device as the iPad will not allow use the internal speakers on the iPad while connected to an external _display_ fucking madness.

yeah, because you want to use the internal speaker while watching the video on a projector screen ... I understand what you are saying, and it sucks indeed, but there are other systems that have exactly the same 'problem' and in real life this is a problem for the minority of people. apple sells to the masses, and they will do what the majority of the people want/need/use. Sure, it sux if you dont fit in that group,…

The internal speakers on my iPad Pro blow away any small sized Bluetooth speaker I have laying around.

What is the use case for an iPad Pro? To be used by professionals as a _portable laptop_. Presentations are probably one of the top use cases and Apple can’t even get it right.

If the iPad Pro is yet another consumption device then remove the bullshit pro moniker and just sell iPads.

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