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Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by DonaldPShimoda »

lostgame wrote: post #216
hammyhavoc wrote: post #193

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Not been an Apple user since a little while after Steve Jobs passed away, but this is in stark contrast to what people usually say about Airdrop. What I usually hear is that it's the greatest thing since sliced bread and how everybody should be using it.

Wow. I’ve seriously actually never heard that once in 15+ years of being a Mac developer and using them full time. I’ve never actually heard anyone, in real life; or offline, recommend, suggest; or even say one single positive thing about AirDrop essentially since its release. It’s easily the most unreliable piece of software integrated into the MacOS/iOS platform, just a feature that has been so fundamentally broken…

I feel like you must have a specific use case for which AirDrop fails more often.

I use AirDrop all the time for various things, and it mostly works as expected. It almost always works correctly when it's transferring between two of my own devices; the only issue I think I regularly encounter is when airdropping to another person's device. But I do not AirDrop particularly large files, so perhaps something goes wrong there.

That said, among average users, AirDrop is pretty consistently considered to be a great feature. I witness this occasionally in-person, but also in online discussions.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by carlosjobim »

anaganisk wrote: post #137
carlosjobim wrote: post #72

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People are broke and too undisciplined to save up even a little money, so normal software prices look huge in their eyes. That's why subscriptions and splitting a purchase is coming to everything now. It won't take long before the cashier in your local supermarket will ask you if you want to pay everything at once or divide after ringing up your stuff.

Aren't our supplies already a subscription? Like we don't purchase lifetime, and we already have credit cards/Monthly installments for any big purchases, at least in my country EMI(Easy monthly installments) is already huge.

Yes, in some countries this is already the norm. It will become the global norm and it will be for almost every purchase except the smallest for the majority of the population.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by carlosjobim »

freedomben wrote: post #122
carlosjobim wrote: post #72

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People are broke and too undisciplined to save up even a little money, so normal software prices look huge in their eyes. That's why subscriptions and splitting a purchase is coming to everything now. It won't take long before the cashier in your local supermarket will ask you if you want to pay everything at once or divide after ringing up your stuff.

> That's why subscriptions and splitting a purchase is coming to everything now. Maybe that's a factor, and in this particular case a reasonably large one, but I'd guess it's because subscription revenue is the holy grail for modern software. People end up spending way, way more than they would have, often forgetting about the subscription and paying for it when they don't even use it, and the revenue is predictable…

The downside is that the company has a responsibility for delivering software that is working as long as the subscription is being paid. Contrast that to pay-once software, where maybe you might not get much help if you can't get the product to work - depending on the seller.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by McAtNite »

lostgame wrote: post #216
hammyhavoc wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not been an Apple user since a little while after Steve Jobs passed away, but this is in stark contrast to what people usually say about Airdrop. What I usually hear is that it's the greatest thing since sliced bread and how everybody should be using it.

Wow. I’ve seriously actually never heard that once in 15+ years of being a Mac developer and using them full time. I’ve never actually heard anyone, in real life; or offline, recommend, suggest; or even say one single positive thing about AirDrop essentially since its release. It’s easily the most unreliable piece of software integrated into the MacOS/iOS platform, just a feature that has been so fundamentally broken…

I often use airdrop to transfer small, one off files like PDFs or images. For larger files I transfer through my NAS. I’ve never had any issues using airdrop. I wonder if it’s because people are trying to transfer gigs of data using it.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by NewMountain »

jahnu wrote: post #49
dagmx wrote: post #11

Having a full DAW on the go is a killer feature imho. The promise has been there since stuff like 8tracks on the iPhone 3G, and various Audio Units already on iOS. But I’ve always found the workflow very limiting or clunky. (Edit: I’m a Logic Pro user on macOS so my comments reflect getting things into that specifically) The divide from putting down an idea when it hits, to working it into something, has always been…

As developers of professional audio plugins this is very exciting for us. The horsepower is there and the touch interface allows for some really cool possibilities. We already enjoy using AUM and Cubasis, but will be very interested to see if support for pro hardware improves now on iPad.

I recently did a gig with a quad cortex and honestly I couldn't shake the feeling of just wishing I could have all my Plugins (FabFilter, SoundToys, NAM and NeuralDSP mostly) instead. iPad, good interface, some bluetooth switch/expression pedal and all the same plugins I have at home would be amazing for me.

Just curious if anyone knows. Suppose a band of the future is just a few players who show up with iPads (guitar, bass, key/synth, drums) and, where relevant, a control surface (midi controller, edrums, etc). Does Logic have a "federated" mode? Can each iPad synchronize to a shared click track or other backing tracks for lights, etc or does the "brain" of a performance still need to be centralized?

Edit: I'm wondering if that "federated" functionality could be used to reduce the amount of gear required for a band using IEMs. That would be a _killer_ use case.

I'm super excited about this though and really looking forward to a major step forward at least in the guitar world.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by [deleted] »

anaganisk wrote: post #137
carlosjobim wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People are broke and too undisciplined to save up even a little money, so normal software prices look huge in their eyes. That's why subscriptions and splitting a purchase is coming to everything now. It won't take long before the cashier in your local supermarket will ask you if you want to pay everything at once or divide after ringing up your stuff.

Aren't our supplies already a subscription? Like we don't purchase lifetime, and we already have credit cards/Monthly installments for any big purchases, at least in my country EMI(Easy monthly installments) is already huge.

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Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by carlosjobim »

coldtea wrote: post #169
carlosjobim wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People are broke and too undisciplined to save up even a little money, so normal software prices look huge in their eyes. That's why subscriptions and splitting a purchase is coming to everything now. It won't take long before the cashier in your local supermarket will ask you if you want to pay everything at once or divide after ringing up your stuff.

> People are broke and too undisciplined to save up even a little money, so normal software prices look huge in their eyes. That's why subscriptions and splitting a purchase is coming to everything now. Or people don't want to have to continuously pay to have access to some latest version, and prefer to update when they feel like it and need some new feature, not always. Producers and video editors especially hate to…

> Or people don't want to have to continuously pay to have access to some latest version, and prefer to update when they feel like it and need some new feature, not always.

These people are not the target group for subscriptions, nor are they the majority. For large swatches of potential customers there are only two options that they accept: 1) Free or pirated 2) Low monthly value subscription.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by glhaynes »

thewebcount wrote: post #236
smoldesu wrote: post #50

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Even as a paying Bitwig subscriber, I don't get it. My instruments are velocity and aftertouch sensitive. Having a touchscreen interface for these instruments is no better than typing on your keyboard to play notes. And then if you want to plug in hardware, you have to either settle for one thing and no charging or buy a dongle. > being able to switch between my live instrument and an on screen virtual one is a big d…

FWIW, the iPad is velocity sensitive. I haven't tried Logic Pro on it yet, but with Garage Band, it definitely plays louder if you hit it harder (for patches that support it). Some software synths in GB also have a pseudo-aftertouch where you slide your finger up after hitting the key to invoke aftertouch. That said, I don't like playing on a screen. I'm a long-time piano and keyboard player so I just hook up an exte…

I wonder if this works by measuring the size of your touch (i.e., how much your finger "splats" when it touches) or using the accelerometers/gyroscope or what.
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