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Facebook has not been doing enough to comply with a 2020 privacy order: FTC

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Re: Facebook has not been doing enough to comply with a 2020 privacy order: FTC

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> “Facebook has repeatedly violated its privacy promises,” Samuel Levine, director of the FTC’s Bureau of Consumer Protection, said in a press release. If you're pissing off Facebook, you're probably doing something right.

> If you're pissing off Facebook, you're probably doing something right. ^^ THIS ! I remember when Apple hardened iOS so that Facebook & co. could no longer mis-use the system do do evil things such as silently monitor pasteboard contents. Facebook took out enormous billboard ads at the time in major cities on which they exercised their tiny woe-is-me violin, trying to pretend Apple was the evil one.

But obviously we should allow Facebook to sideload their own app for the freedom of users.

Re: Facebook has not been doing enough to comply with a 2020 privacy order: FTC

#173

Truly disgusting to allow an under-13 to talk to an unapproved friend. Companies were never meant to have incentives to provide products to such people and not their guardians. There is a reason we make it illegal for that underclass to own or earn capital, and the ability for companies to circumvent this and provide services anyway through indirect revenue is unpalatable. Cutting that off is necessary, as any good-t…

And to clarify in a child comment, yes I dislike Facebook and think it has huge harmful externalities, yes I dislike advertising and think it has huge harmful externalities, but I also dislike that the justification from the FTC I read in this article and in the others I checked against lacks respect for basic human liberties and has huge harmful externalities and I don't feel obligated to overlook that on the basis of any other dispreference.

Re: Facebook has not been doing enough to comply with a 2020 privacy order: FTC

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post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>How can a corporation be furious? After reading the article, they don't say anything about the company or people inside the company being furious. The closest thing I could find is that a Meta spokesperson said they plan to fight it vigorously and expect to win. To be fair, the spokesperson's tone, and the insistence that they'll be fighting, does make them sound pretty pissed off.

So how about, Facebook spokesperson furious...

"Facebook spokesperson does a decent job feigning emotion."

Re: Facebook has not been doing enough to comply with a 2020 privacy order: FTC

#176

How come FTC keeps coming back at this one company? Whereas TikTok and others having business as normal

Well, FB does have ~2BB euros set aside to pay for EU fines in 2023. So not just the FTC!

You know how it goes. They're going to take the budget away if it doesn't get spent.

Re: Facebook has not been doing enough to comply with a 2020 privacy order: FTC

#177

Facebook (and much of social media) is the modern day Philip Morris peddling addictive experiences...except the harm is way less obvious. Folks arent getting cancer, but they are wrecking their mental health. The difference is social media falls under the first amendment and is much harder to regulate. It's a borderline national security issue, too.

For sure. I sincerely hope we look back in 5-15 years (sooner the better) and are aghast at letting children and teens having unrestricted total access to social media. Hell, even adults I hope it is frowned upon - at least social media in its current state. It feels like it will be looking back at smoking and being like what the hell "you just LET people receive push notifications from the worlds largest companies who have teams of PhD data scientists optimizing the content delivery tho maximize your engagement (ie addiction) !?!? Fucking irresponsible!"

Re: Facebook has not been doing enough to comply with a 2020 privacy order: FTC

#178

How come FTC keeps coming back at this one company? Whereas TikTok and others having business as normal

Why is FTC making sure the biggest social media company plays by the rules that they continue to break? I find it hard to believe that this question is in good faith.

Re: Facebook has not been doing enough to comply with a 2020 privacy order: FTC

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post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really hated growing up with Transformers and He-Man and all of the other TV shows that were animated versions of toys I played with. Wait. I didn't hate that at all.

I noticed a Youtube ad on a kids video was literally a 44 minute Transformer cartoon. If you didn't hit skip, it would play for 44 minutes. Not sure what I feel about it.

How is that possible? Don't long ads cost the advertiser more? It doesn't seem reasonable that you could launch someone into a 44 minute tangent of your choosing.

Re: Facebook has not been doing enough to comply with a 2020 privacy order: FTC

#180

How come FTC keeps coming back at this one company? Whereas TikTok and others having business as normal

TikTok is currently being considered for a total ban in the US isn’t it? And it’s banned on US government devices? Not the greatest example to use for your point.
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