I'm an IT Admin with 15+ sites across my country. I'm not angry about this change. Myself and most of the people I've networked with either have or are transitioning away from other browsers, towards Edge. As a browser, it's fine. It has good PDF viewing/editing features, performant and works well with organisational SSO.
MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry
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Re: MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry
#72So much for the "but Microsoft is a new company now". Remember "Microsoft loves open source" phrase from just few years ago? Guess what, Ike also loved Tina.
Re: MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry
#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The only instance of Apple doing that I’m aware of is Not allowing alternative browsers on their most successful platform: iOS also: - EU forced Apple to use USB-C like everybody else - EU is forcing Apple to allow side loading of apps Apple is one of the worst offenders ever when it's about vendor lock in
> Not allowing alternative browsers on their most successful platform: iOS The huge difference is that this is the blanket application of a rule which has reasonable justifications. You can certainly criticise Apple for being a control-freak company, but that's not exactly a new trait. And it's not Apple leveraging one monopoly (they don't have) into trying to take over an other domain as a new entrant. iOS started f…
They released USB-C macbooks in 2015, 8 years ago. Clearly they had no intention of moving to USB-C on iPhones, prior to the EU ruling. The extra few years selling cables so that you can plug your brand new Apple laptop in to your brand new Apple phone was probably a fun little profit exercise, if not comically anti-consumer/anti-environment.
Re: MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry
#74Have I traveled between universes to a world where Microsoft hasn't faced an anti-trust judgement against them over Internet browsers? How does Microsoft think that they can get away with all of this shit?
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#75If shit hits the fan and Microsoft gets sued for Anti Competitive behaviour (again) I suspect their main defence would be: Google doesn't even let users uninstall their apps and apple doesn't even let users install other browser.
By uninstall their apps I assume you mean play service? In which case you can you just need root. Same as you can’t uninstall core Microsoft services. Apple not allowing other browsers is a bit much…
Re: MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry
#76Re: MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry
#77So much for the "but Microsoft is a new company now". Remember "Microsoft loves open source" phrase from just few years ago? Guess what, Ike also loved Tina.
Re: MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry
#78I am thankful that I don't use Windows at home anymore. While I use Fedora, I believe most frustrated people will look to Apple ecosystem.
Been using Linux more and more. Linux tends to have less of this nonsense and respects the user more.
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#79Microsoft is shoving their software down people's throats with impunity. Just yesterday I had to install VS Code for a Homebridge integration, and out of nowhere they slapped a Bing search bar bang in the middle of the desktop.
Why not VS Codium?
Re: MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry
#80Looking at the bigger M365 vision of embedding snippets of documents/chats/stuff-from-the-graph into every other asset. Having there a free-variable like a third party browser will make this a horrible thing to manage. Same also goes for App Store deploy to desktop: a stable html/css/js SDK is needed there as well.
I would absolutely hate Microsoft's monopolistic behavior, but this thing, IMHO, it is not. There are better example (e.g. what they do with VS Code or the .NET Debugger/HotReload) then this concrete case.