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MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry

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Re: MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry

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Post by Traubenfuchs »

dustedcodes wrote: post #6

I have no skin in the game, but even I am starting to think the obvious thing here: Apple and Google own the entire mobile OS market. They could literally destroy Microsoft if they started to hugely degrade the experience of Microsoft products on iOS and Android with dark patterns a la Microsoft. But they don't. So far they were competing by making their own products better. Microsoft needs to think hard how hostile…

"forced Candy Crush ad tiles in the start menu" is all the answer you need to your questions.

I wonder how much money this shameful bottom of the barrel company behaviour makes them.

Re: MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry

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Post by Xeamek »

dustedcodes wrote: post #24
seydor wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They don't because they can't. People use ms programs for their daily work , phones are secondary. And how is ms degrading googls products? They don't even have a mandatory app store in windows. When comparing them all, ms has been the most open one

I think people care more about their phones than wether they use Goole docs or Word to put together a report at work which nobody is really going to read and if they do they'll ask for a PDF print out anyway and not the document itself. Same for other products. If OneDrive or MS Teams was all of a sudden really annoying to use on iOS and Android, but Slack and Google Meet would work really reliably and smoothly then…

You massively underestimate how much business world (corporate especially) depends on MS Office and how deeply integrated it is into companies eco systems.

Re: MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry

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Post by masklinn »

peoplefromibiza wrote: post #21
supriyo-biswas wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only instance of Apple doing that I’m aware of is the “Search for (term)” in the terminal’s right click menu always defaulting to Safari. In every other instance, they’ve respected the defaults. Microsoft on the other hands seems to have no boundaries, going as far as injecting ads on Chrome’s homepage[1] promoting their browser. [1] https://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-is-now-injecting-full-...

> The only instance of Apple doing that I’m aware of is Not allowing alternative browsers on their most successful platform: iOS also: - EU forced Apple to use USB-C like everybody else - EU is forcing Apple to allow side loading of apps Apple is one of the worst offenders ever when it's about vendor lock in

> Not allowing alternative browsers on their most successful platform: iOS

The huge difference is that this is the blanket application of a rule which has reasonable justifications. You can certainly criticise Apple for being a control-freak company, but that's not exactly a new trait.

And it's not Apple leveraging one monopoly (they don't have) into trying to take over an other domain as a new entrant. iOS started from the position of being completely locked down.

Quite different from the events of, say, US v. Microsoft Corp, which Microsoft seem to assume is not relevant anymore.

> - EU forced Apple to use USB-C like everybody else

Which was almost certainly on Apple's timeline anyway, though we'll never know for sure.

> - EU is forcing Apple to allow side loading of apps

See (1).

Re: MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry

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Post by CrampusDestrus »

peoplefromibiza wrote: post #32
CrampusDestrus wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You might be a few years out of date https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT211336

that's not what you think it is. Alternative browser engines are still disallowed. They are a skin on Apple's Webkit see: https://www.theregister.com/2023/02/07/mozilla_google_apple_...

I replied in topic, your reply is off topic.

GP was talking about how Apple does not force you to open links with Safari except in one case.

The situation with webkit is a different thing.

Re: MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry

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Post by Pulz »

I'm an IT Admin with 15+ sites across my country. I'm not angry about this change.

Myself and most of the people I've networked with either have or are transitioning away from other browsers, towards Edge. As a browser, it's fine. It has good PDF viewing/editing features, performant and works well with organisational SSO.

Re: MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry

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Post by mkoubaa »

rmm wrote: post #8

What’s crazy is that edge is actually a really good browser. Some of the features they have wacked on top of chromium are awesome. Especially when deploying it for a small business. It allows for easy integration with azure, profile syncing etc.

The last thing I want from a browser these days is more features

Re: MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry

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Post by croes »

dustedcodes wrote: post #6

I have no skin in the game, but even I am starting to think the obvious thing here: Apple and Google own the entire mobile OS market. They could literally destroy Microsoft if they started to hugely degrade the experience of Microsoft products on iOS and Android with dark patterns a la Microsoft. But they don't. So far they were competing by making their own products better. Microsoft needs to think hard how hostile…

Didn't Google kill non-Chromium Edge with changes on YouTube?
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