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MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry

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Re: MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry

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post #52

If shit hits the fan and Microsoft gets sued for Anti Competitive behaviour (again) I suspect their main defence would be: Google doesn't even let users uninstall their apps and apple doesn't even let users install other browser.

By uninstall their apps I assume you mean play service? In which case you can you just need root. Same as you can’t uninstall core Microsoft services.

Apple not allowing other browsers is a bit much…

Re: MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry

#62

I have no skin in the game, but even I am starting to think the obvious thing here: Apple and Google own the entire mobile OS market. They could literally destroy Microsoft if they started to hugely degrade the experience of Microsoft products on iOS and Android with dark patterns a la Microsoft. But they don't. So far they were competing by making their own products better. Microsoft needs to think hard how hostile…

This is what happens when good engineering principles get replaced by greedy MBAs and chasing shareholder value

Re: MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry

#63
post #33

I am thankful that I don't use Windows at home anymore. While I use Fedora, I believe most frustrated people will look to Apple ecosystem.

Been using Linux more and more. Linux tends to have less of this nonsense and respects the user more.

Re: MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry

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post #8

What’s crazy is that edge is actually a really good browser. Some of the features they have wacked on top of chromium are awesome. Especially when deploying it for a small business. It allows for easy integration with azure, profile syncing etc.

The only experience I have of edge is opening it on a new installation of Windows, seeing trashy clickbait with thumbnails of half-naked women to go along with it; after which I proceeded to promptly close the window and download Chrome via Powershell.

I don’t know how a company can take good products and turn them into tacky products that no one would want to use if they had the knowledge to download an alternative.

Re: MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry

#66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You might be a few years out of date https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT211336

that's not what you think it is. Alternative browser engines are still disallowed. They are a skin on Apple's Webkit see: https://www.theregister.com/2023/02/07/mozilla_google_apple_...

For the purposes of this discussion I don’t think the underlying engine really matters (I’m not supporting Apple’s rule here). 99% of users are going to be downloading Chrome or FF to have a consistent UX and sync their bookmarks, history and passwords. iOS respects the default browser and mail client in this case.

Re: MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry

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post #40
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to give Microsoft an out here but really? The equivalent for this on iOS or Android would be allowing opening links in a different browser and web view engine. The equivalent Microsoft apps on mobile OSs aren't degraded - they aren't even allowed to exist in the first place. Microsoft is bringing the desktop experience in line with mobile here. Doesn't make it less terrible but contrasting Apple and Google as bet…

What web view engine? MS are using chromium

On iOS?

Re: MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry

#68
post #57

I'm an IT Admin with 15+ sites across my country. I'm not angry about this change. Myself and most of the people I've networked with either have or are transitioning away from other browsers, towards Edge. As a browser, it's fine. It has good PDF viewing/editing features, performant and works well with organisational SSO.

Does that mean you ban users from using browsers that are not Edge?

Re: MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry

#69

Microsoft is shoving their software down people's throats with impunity. Just yesterday I had to install VS Code for a Homebridge integration, and out of nowhere they slapped a Bing search bar bang in the middle of the desktop.

Why not VS Codium?

Re: MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry

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post #8

What’s crazy is that edge is actually a really good browser. Some of the features they have wacked on top of chromium are awesome. Especially when deploying it for a small business. It allows for easy integration with azure, profile syncing etc.

Used to be good but they’ve crapped it up with shit like coupons, follow this creator (what the fuck?), the “smart” text selection menu and “rich” link copying. I don’t set up a new Edge profile often but I have to remember to turn off like 5 or 6 things each time to make it somewhat usable.

I'm forced to use Edge on work PC and that context menu when selecting text is wildly unpredictable -- sometimes the only "Search for (selected text)" is Search Bing Sidebar. And its slow as molasses if you ever make the mistake of clicking it.
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