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Post by wnolens »

sbaiddn wrote: post #273
welshwelsh wrote: post #201

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Why do you think that? I think it's a good thing for minors to have unrestricted access to porn

Call me a prude. Call me old fashioned. Call me small minded. But watching a woman getting chocked while DPed in her anus while a half dozen men ejaculate on her is not the type of extra-curricular activity [1] I want my soon to be teenaged daughters' boyfriends interested in. Im just... overprotective I guess. [1] If anyone calls me out for knowing what's on the front page of all of these smut sites, guess what? We…

haha.. as if it would be her boyfriend's fault. Way to pass the blame.

Download the latest dating app - Feeld - and peruse for yourself what women explicitly state that they are looking for when the shame for stating so is removed/reduced.

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Post by dokem »

bitcharmer wrote: post #417
Barrin92 wrote: post #349

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>What's wrong with these people? someone told me once "Think of the US less like a secular Western European country and more like a very rich Iran" and that really does help to make sense of a lot of these decisions

My friend likes to refer to the US as a "third world country with a Gucci belt" and sadly I don't think this too far off.

Yea go tell that to someone actually living in a third world country. How out of touch and spoiled can you be?

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Post by degentracker12 »

berkes wrote: post #259
hhjinks wrote: post #208

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I think it's perfectly fine to assume that pornography might warp a child's view of sex and intimacy. The solution shouldn't be to force people to identify themselves, though. Parents have all the tools they need to shield their children from pornhub, if they so wish.

I agree that -without more knowledge- it's probably best to presume pornography might warp young peoples view of sex and intimacy. But isn't that all the more reason to research this and educate people in this? So that adults can provide context and background? And to learn which kind of pornography is more dangerous than others in this? So that, with knowledge kids can be shielded from the stuff that's bad from them…

Some of the world's oldest institutions have already researched this topic significantly and have worked together to compile and provide a common piece of literature that is widely available should you wish to embrace it.

Re: PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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Post by juve1996 »

woeirua wrote: post #324
mhh__ wrote: post #309

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Does it have to be the government? Isn't this what parental controls are for

Utah hasn’t said what the solution has to be, just that age verification needs to take place. I think the market should find the best solution here.

The market has - exiting the market is the best solution right now.

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Post by nathan_compton »

xdennis wrote: post #445
afavour wrote: post #206

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You’ll get some angry responses to this but I think it’s very worthwhile to say. Yes , ID verification in order to watch pornography is deeply Orwellian and terrifying (which is the aspect places like HN tend to focus on) but the bulk of the public support for these measures isn’t because people want government surveillance, it’s because they want to look out for children. Are they misguided? Perhaps. But you can’t w…

> it’s because they want to look out for children The issue is that it's _their_ job to look out for their children. We don't force all beds to have "walls", and give adults the keys to lower them if they show proof of age. Parents are supposed to buy _cribs_ for their children.

But if a parent neglects those responsibilities society is understood to have the right to intervene. In other words, the state has the responsibility to intervene on behalf of society for the well being of children. Given that responsibility, its pretty easy to suggest that the state has the power to make laws which may protect children over and above what individual parents might do.

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Post by AlecSchueler »

juve1996 wrote: post #458
AlecSchueler wrote: post #277

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Pornography is dangerous. It's extremely addictive and users become increasingly tolerant to what their viewing, often leading to the development of distressing fetishes or real life intimacy issues. I'm sex positive and I believe in being open with children about the realities of life but the dangers of pornography are real.

> It's extremely addictive and users become increasingly tolerant to what their viewing, often leading to the development of distressing fetishes or real life intimacy issues. This is a strong claim - please provide a source. I think it may be true, but is it?

The Wikipedia page for pornography addiction lists several good sources: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornography_addiction

And YourBrainOnPorn gathered together some of the literature about escalation: https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/nl/relevant-research-and-art...

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Post by luoc »

Osiris wrote: post #437
mattpallissard wrote: post #412

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> Why aren't parents doing basic things like setting up content filters? Not a comment on the policy; I'm a parent and AFAICT none of my cohorts in town know how to do this.

My son runs a vpn to get around my dns enforced fillers. I’ve tried to block vpns but he still finds a way.

That's great and how many hacker careers have started!

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Post by waboremo »

mattpallissard wrote: post #412
honkycat wrote: post #396

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Why do we need a policy? Why aren't parents doing basic things like setting up content filters?

> Why aren't parents doing basic things like setting up content filters? Not a comment on the policy; I'm a parent and AFAICT none of my cohorts in town know how to do this.

Yes education on content filters is absurdly low despite how crucial they are for general use. There are so many layers of filters that exist today (and almost every major player has their own family filter app/system), but outside of the ones that are forced before use, many have absolutely no idea they exist. It gets tucked away in a settings menu somewhere under your account menu basically. Or like on iOS where you have to also go into screen time to set filters, it can be confusing!

This isn't to say the systems that exist are really good enough yet, many of them need to be more detailed. For example, most apps are an on or off toggle, rather than a "let my kid play minecraft but chat is disabled and they can only join designated family friendly realms". So what often ends up happening even for parents who do know about the filters, is they wind up relaxing them to the point of being useless.

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Post by jacquesm »

CuriouslyC wrote: post #108
wesleywt wrote: post #39

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The whole "attack woke & trans" thing played well with independents for a bit, but it's gotten tired and now it just looks angry and petty. Add in Nazi-like stuff we're seeing in states like Tennessee, and the anti-education/environment policy proposals, and the Republican party has backed itself into a tough spot that even their egregious gerrymandering might not save them from.

With the supreme court stacked the way it is that may no longer matter as much as it did once.

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Post by [deleted] »

fullstop wrote: post #68
xxs wrote: post #4

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Mobile phones cannot be reliably geo-located by IP as that depends on the datacenter serving them, which can easily be out of state. Usually the only half reliable part is the country which doesn't work in Europe when it comes to roaming (it uses the host country regardless the location).

On websites which use geolocation to select a local store (home depot), mine are frequently several hundreds of miles away when I'm on my phone.

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