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Controversial bill to regulate online streaming becomes law in Canada

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> It pushed some local artist to get creative and come out with some electronic traditional music, which frakly, sucked You gotta start somewhere. I lived through a similar transition in a different country, I hated the law at the time for the same reasons. However, it lit a fire under the local music industry which now supports more artistes than before. The music now sucks much less, and the local subgenres are uni…

>> You gotta start somewhere Such a strange concept. People like songs from "Region A" but we in "Region B" and want people to like songs from our own region. We do this by restricting access to "Region A"'s songs, not by making better songs in "Region B".

Even beyond the treatment, the whole idea that you could not like the consumption preferences of individuals, and then game the system by mandating more of what you wished people liked is so dystopian.

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Or The Band, Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, Shania Twain, Nelly Furtado, Alanis Morisette, Leonard Cohen, Gordon Lightfoot...

A lot of those artists don’t count as Canadian content because the producer was American. Musician Bryan Adams has been a vocal opponent of CanCon rules since the 1990s, and it’s largely due to the fact that the federal government keeps ruling that his songs aren’t actually Canadian. https://nationalpost.com/news/extremely-canadian-media-that-...

does it need to be Canadian all the way through then? any hint of the non-Canadian shall pollute the result.

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As a Canadian, I am of two minds about it. FM radio is required to broadcast Canadian produced or performed music at least for 35% of the time. There are not too many, in absolute numbers, songs that are both Canadian and popular which results in few songs being broadcast to death. At least that was the case when I used to listen to FM radio. On the other hand, that legislation certainly helped Canadian artists.

>> FM radio is required to broadcast So, how does this work on Spotify? Am I now required to listen to Nickelback?

As if you were able to avoid Nickelback before.

It is plausible that the requirement would be something like 'insert at least 35% Canadian tracks' to any pre-canned playlist or 'song radio' sequence. I wonder how that would work with Gothenburg death metal playlists. I will probably get some Nickelback there.

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> As an example I cannot send my kids to english school (because I went to french school) but my neighbor that is as french as me can. What is this rule?

If I understand the law correctly, you can only send your kid to English-speaking public school if you yourself went to an English-speaking school in Canada.

Yes. There is also some complicated points system so that if one parent did goes for just a few years it’s not enough to get that right.

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Look forward to seeing the same thing on YouTube, Twitter and other online services from now on in Canada. At least 30% of the videos your feed contain will be from some Canadian "influencers" that the government approved. Regulation will continue being created to force content upon you until you start liking the content.

Did you read the article ? It specifically says user generated content is NOT covered.

Did you? :) It specifically says that addition was proposed but then denied so it's still unclear.

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I'm not sure it always works. Canada has had this system in place for radio and TV for ~50 years. Radio has sort of worked maybe but TV? No way. Maybe once a decade there's a half decent show worth watching.

But there's a massive industry of film shot in Canada. Start watching the credits and the supporting actors are very often Canadian, with projects shot in Vancouver or Toronto and 'local' hires to fill out the cast.

This only exists due to tax subsidies and the increasing difficulty and price of shooting in the US.

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I make no apologies for being a fan of The Weeknd. And Carly Rae Jepsen.

And I make no apologies for having never heard of either of them! Just not interested in music that's made from the ground up just to stick in people heads for a few days, personally. The art is gone, they follow a pretty basic formula. And they usually don't even write their own music except for the lyrics. And if you're lucky you might even get to hear their actual voice! Might as well just listen to generative mus…

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Re: Controversial bill to regulate online streaming becomes law in Canada

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Does the bill single out netflix and amazon prime? Will the independent youtuber also have to support indigenous languages?

Supposedly, the bill is for companies who produce their own content (just like the existing broadcasting laws) and not for companies that serve user-generated content (like YouTube).

YouTubers produce their own content, though. And they often are limited companies, as they need to pay an editor, receive sponsorship, etc. Sometimes it's easier to be a company, legally.

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> As an example I cannot send my kids to english school (because I went to french school) but my neighbor that is as french as me can. What is this rule?

The English Montreal School Board's web site has some information about this: https://www.emsb.qc.ca/emsb/admissions/eligibility/standard-... It's remarkably convoluted.

My US based sense of "freedoms" gets really itchy when I read that ... like let me decide that, not sure I get why my kids have to be involved in someone's cultural type initiatives.

Granted if it was just say a class about ... something, whatever, but picking the full time language for the school is a lot for someone else to decide for me.

I suppose the argument is that if the parents picked they'd just pick one and there's no choice but I'm kinda ok with that.

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