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Controversial bill to regulate online streaming becomes law in Canada

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Post by capableweb »

aflag wrote: post #17
capableweb wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is already the case, but it's not based by location but by languages. Spanish-speaking internet is vastly different from the English-speaking one, and so is the internet for Chinese, Russian, French, Portuguese speaking population. Every major language have their own corner of the internet. Anyone who is bilingual can tell you the same :)

Sort of. Most sites are available everywhere with the same content, the main exception being exactly netflix and other streaming platforms. Even though language is a barrier sometimes, it's not always. Translation software is getting better every day. Whereas, real time communication between people speaking different languages is not really possible (I can't think of a way for it to be smooth, really), but everything…

Translation software won't make you understand all the slang and idioms happening when communicating with people natively speaking the same language as you. "Hacemos una chancha" might literally mean "We make a pig" but that's not the meaning of it, and you'll miss a lot of context from conversations unless you're already aware of it, especially when it just looks like translation errors from the software rather than literal translations.

Not to mention that depending on the language, you'll be using different websites. Not all Spanish memes are made for reddit or even Spanish speaking reddit.

Re: Controversial bill to regulate online streaming becomes law in Canada

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Post by abduhl »

version_five wrote: post #9
mynegation wrote: post #5

As a Canadian, I am of two minds about it. FM radio is required to broadcast Canadian produced or performed music at least for 35% of the time. There are not too many, in absolute numbers, songs that are both Canadian and popular which results in few songs being broadcast to death. At least that was the case when I used to listen to FM radio. On the other hand, that legislation certainly helped Canadian artists.

Meh, it doesn't really help Canadian artists, it helps the Canadian version of artists that want to produce something the government wants to support. Same as all business subsidies in Canada. We're just a pretend economy of government spending. Companies playing startup, people playing artist. None of it is viable or valuable outside the government spending bubble, and we'd all be better off if it just stopped. Exce…

What is the difference between Canadian artists and the Canadian version of artists? Isn't the latter definitionally a subset of the former?

This comment just seems like a rant against governments and laws.

Re: Controversial bill to regulate online streaming becomes law in Canada

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Post by busymom0 »

asjfka wrote: post #25

>The government has insisted that the legislation is not intended to regulate independent content creators. What does that means? If I upload videos on Youtube, then I'm probably in the clear. But if I make my own website with videos on it, am I still an "independent content creators" or am I now a streaming service in need of being regulated? How big I need to become before the law apply to me? Is this a new barrier…

If you upload to YouTube, why couldn’t you still be an independent content creator? Like writers on Substack are still considered independent.

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Post by jtode »

bitwize wrote: post #31

Fun fact: The "Canadian content" requirement for broadcast was parodied by SCTV, who in order to fill the letter of the law aired a skit featuring two of the most stereotypically Canuck characters imaginable: Bob and Doug McKenzie.

Not just one skit. Bob and Doug are as fundamental to our cultural DNA now as Gord Downie. Rick Moranis and Dave Thomas reunite occasionally to do commercials for Mr Lube and stage video for Rush, and they never get accused of greed or whatever cause we all are just so happy to see them again.

For a quick crash course, find and watch Strange Brew, their feature film, which today is like a vacation in early 80s Toronto. But all the old SCTV shows are worth digging up, it had three different lives and each is fantastic, but different.

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Post by capableweb »

aflag wrote: post #20
frumper wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> online undertakings shall clearly promote and recommend Canadian programming, in both official languages as well as in Indigenous languages That was what I was commenting about easy customers. Netflix has a lot of content in English, and I'd imagine French, but they'd need to also support Indigenous languages. Are you suggesting Indigenous people are the small cadre of elites in Canada?

Does the bill single out netflix and amazon prime? Will the independent youtuber also have to support indigenous languages?

Supposedly, the bill is for companies who produce their own content (just like the existing broadcasting laws) and not for companies that serve user-generated content (like YouTube).

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Post by goosedragons »

busymom0 wrote: post #38
pseudo0 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It sounds cruel and unusual to torment the population with Nickelback and Justin Bieber.

Are those considered Canadian content? Correct me if I am wrong, Bieber’s music is produced in the US.

It depends. There's a set of criteria called the MAPL system. it stands for Music, Artist, Performance, Lyrics. If 2 of those 4 things are Canadian then it's considered Canadian content. So if Bieber sings lyrics that he wrote despite being recorded in LA with music by a non-Canadian then its Canadian Content and the radio station can put it towards the quota.

There is a similar system for film/TV where having a Canadian director, lead actors, writers,etc gets a certain amount of points and so on.

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Post by Sytten »

The French speaking part of Canada of which I am a part of generally view this legislation positively since it does mean more money for culture in French. Money that currently goes toward English content. Now if we could actually produce quality shows it would be great (right now its like 90% bad soap/romcom/cop shows), otherwise the younger generations (me included) will just continue to watch US English content. If I want to watch good content in French I search for stuff made in France (ARTE on youtube, Backseat on twitch, etc).

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Post by musicale »

cryptoz wrote: post #12
mynegation wrote: post #5

As a Canadian, I am of two minds about it. FM radio is required to broadcast Canadian produced or performed music at least for 35% of the time. There are not too many, in absolute numbers, songs that are both Canadian and popular which results in few songs being broadcast to death. At least that was the case when I used to listen to FM radio. On the other hand, that legislation certainly helped Canadian artists.

So call me, maybe!!

"Now, now, the Canadian government has apologized for Bryan Adams on several occasions..."

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Post by speed_spread »

frumper wrote: post #16
version_five wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm assuming your not canadian. Canadian content is a tax we (canadians) all pay, being forced to wade through a sea of government approved crap to actually watch a good show. It benefits some small elite class of people, it's not for "difficult" Canadian customers.

> online undertakings shall clearly promote and recommend Canadian programming, in both official languages as well as in Indigenous languages That was what I was commenting about easy customers. Netflix has a lot of content in English, and I'd imagine French, but they'd need to also support Indigenous languages. Are you suggesting Indigenous people are the small cadre of elites in Canada?

I would soooo re-binge-watch Breaking Bad dubbed in Innu-Aimun!

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Post by jszymborski »

xyzzy_plugh wrote: post #18
juancampa wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A similar law was passed in Venezuela in ~2005. It forced radio stations to play traditional Venezuelan music as a percent of all their airtime. From the only article I could find in english [0]: > The law can make listening to the radio an adventure in dizzying contrasts. One minute a disc jockey is playing American rap, and the next minute it’s flutes and fiddles from the Andean highlands. It pushed some local arti…

Canada already has this law, for as long as I can remember.

I think it's an important distinction that the requirement is for Canadian content, not "traditional" Canadian content.
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