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Controversial bill to regulate online streaming becomes law in Canada

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Re: Controversial bill to regulate online streaming becomes law in Canada

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Post by goosedragons »

kranke155 wrote: post #72
Sytten wrote: post #47

The French speaking part of Canada of which I am a part of generally view this legislation positively since it does mean more money for culture in French. Money that currently goes toward English content. Now if we could actually produce quality shows it would be great (right now its like 90% bad soap/romcom/cop shows), otherwise the younger generations (me included) will just continue to watch US English content. If…

Quotas are great exactly for this reason. In France before quotas in cinemas, the quality of the films was poor. But when you he cinemas were forced to show French film in. x amount of screenings, desperate not to lose money they started to fund the films themselves and make films that were as profitable as possible. This led to a positive loop where 1. The cinemas would look for lucrative films to fund 2. Creating a…

I'm not sure it always works. Canada has had this system in place for radio and TV for ~50 years. Radio has sort of worked maybe but TV? No way. Maybe once a decade there's a half decent show worth watching.

Re: Controversial bill to regulate online streaming becomes law in Canada

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Post by 908B64B197 »

busymom0 wrote: post #38
pseudo0 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It sounds cruel and unusual to torment the population with Nickelback and Justin Bieber.

Are those considered Canadian content? Correct me if I am wrong, Bieber’s music is produced in the US.

It is.

According to the government, Justing Bieber signing about “Georgia Peaches” and consuming drugs in California counts as Canadian Music and Culture (he was born in Canada). It's interesting to consider Justin Bieber's houses right here in California were purchased in part with Canadian government subsidies [0].

[0] https://www.velvetropes.com/backstage/justin-bieber-house

Re: Controversial bill to regulate online streaming becomes law in Canada

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Post by scarface74 »

mlb893 wrote: post #89
agentofoblivion wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s astounding to me that the bulk of replies in this thread are supportive. Yay big government! Yay Brave New World!

It's easy to understand when most popular streaming services here are foreign owned and have created a terrible image for themselves by producing barely any tax revenue for the country.

Well doesn’t that say more about the inability of the country to produce its own tech environment where their own citizens prefer media produced by foreign companies?

Re: Controversial bill to regulate online streaming becomes law in Canada

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Post by alfor »

Sytten wrote: post #47

The French speaking part of Canada of which I am a part of generally view this legislation positively since it does mean more money for culture in French. Money that currently goes toward English content. Now if we could actually produce quality shows it would be great (right now its like 90% bad soap/romcom/cop shows), otherwise the younger generations (me included) will just continue to watch US English content. If…

(also french Canadian) I think at this point we should accept that the french language will die out. We are a tiny minority in a sea of english speaking, it doesn’t make sense anymore in the age of internet. It has a huge cost for business and thus people and make us disadvantaged vs english speaking. I just wish we would finally move on, but as french is fading, the government is tightening its grip, reducing the freedom of people to force french. As an example I cannot send my kids to english school (because I went to french school) but my neighbor that is as french as me can.

I like a bit of our culture from time to time (and also of France) but forcing it on people make no sense. Kids will keep on watching Youtube, TikTok all in english, that ship has sailed.

Re: Controversial bill to regulate online streaming becomes law in Canada

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Post by scj »

bitwize wrote: post #31

Fun fact: The "Canadian content" requirement for broadcast was parodied by SCTV, who in order to fill the letter of the law aired a skit featuring two of the most stereotypically Canuck characters imaginable: Bob and Doug McKenzie.

Weird Al hosted a Muchmusic special in the 90s and had to resolve a "CanCon Alarm" by inserting himself into an Alanis Morsette music video.

EDIT: https://archive.org/details/al-music/AL+Music+3.mp4 at 49:51

Re: Controversial bill to regulate online streaming becomes law in Canada

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Post by 908B64B197 »

Sytten wrote: post #47

The French speaking part of Canada of which I am a part of generally view this legislation positively since it does mean more money for culture in French. Money that currently goes toward English content. Now if we could actually produce quality shows it would be great (right now its like 90% bad soap/romcom/cop shows), otherwise the younger generations (me included) will just continue to watch US English content. If…

To me, having this government mandated content is simply bizarre, not unlike old soviet censors looking at movies and deciding what was “soviet enough” to get the approval from the bureaucracy.

> Now if we could actually produce quality shows it would be great (right now its like 90% bad soap/romcom/cop shows)

Disney and Marvel made billions of dollars simply making content people want to watch and pay for, why not simply do the same and compete in the marketplace? Imagine how ridiculous it would be if there were quotas on iPhone sold so that BlackBerry still had a legally mandated market share.

> more money for culture in French.

By the state sponsored media?

Weren’t they making blatantly racist “historical documentary” (with taxpayers money) a few years ago? [0-4] Are people ok with this?

Aren’t the French Canadians notorious for buying and consuming their own culture? I work with a few French Canadians who have been here in the bay for decades and even their kids (born here in America) watch French Canadian content (on TikTok no less!). No need to subsidize it, they just seek it because they want to watch it.

When you make something that’s worth it, people simply watch it. That’s why Parasite won an Oscar.

[0] https://www.huffpost.com/archive/ca/entry/cbc-the-story-of-u...

[1] https://this.org/2017/07/19/where-cbcs-the-story-of-us-went-...

[2] https://etcanada.com/news/217608/cbc-issues-apology-after-th...

[3] https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/couillard-govern...

[4] https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/cbc-apologizes...

Re: Controversial bill to regulate online streaming becomes law in Canada

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Post by agentofoblivion »

mlb893 wrote: post #89
agentofoblivion wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s astounding to me that the bulk of replies in this thread are supportive. Yay big government! Yay Brave New World!

It's easy to understand when most popular streaming services here are foreign owned and have created a terrible image for themselves by producing barely any tax revenue for the country.

Is someone stopping Canadians from consuming content created by Canadians?

Re: Controversial bill to regulate online streaming becomes law in Canada

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Post by onlyrealcuzzo »

alfor wrote: post #97

I hate this. Always more and more control from our government that know what is good for us! I can’t stand this government and hope people wake up and switch at next elections.

Government is a reflection of people's votes in a democracy.

People think individually they know better than everyone else, so they vote for people who think that, too.

Leopards don't change their spots.

I doubt people are going to stop thinking they know better than everyone else any time soon. I hope so, but I doubt it.

Re: Controversial bill to regulate online streaming becomes law in Canada

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Post by valleyjo »

goosedragons wrote: post #91
kranke155 wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quotas are great exactly for this reason. In France before quotas in cinemas, the quality of the films was poor. But when you he cinemas were forced to show French film in. x amount of screenings, desperate not to lose money they started to fund the films themselves and make films that were as profitable as possible. This led to a positive loop where 1. The cinemas would look for lucrative films to fund 2. Creating a…

I'm not sure it always works. Canada has had this system in place for radio and TV for ~50 years. Radio has sort of worked maybe but TV? No way. Maybe once a decade there's a half decent show worth watching.

Trailer park boys. Never forget.
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