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Re: DuckDuckGo removed the ability to filter search results

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Post by chuchana »

Zetaphor wrote: post #109
DanHulton wrote: post #70

I debated bringing up Kagi at the top level here, since I already commented on it in a reply, but honestly I really want them to succeed and shit like this is why. It's a paid search service, and I'm honestly really happy with that distinction and what it entails. Being paid means that they can deliver on and support features that users can use to get the best results for them, without worrying how those features may…

For those interested in something self hosted and open source, try SearXNG. I've hosting an instance from my NAS for over a year, it's been excellent, and I retain full control over my search history (or lack thereof)

searxng.org

Re: DuckDuckGo removed the ability to filter search results

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Post by mzi »

manmal wrote: post #212
mzi wrote: post #185

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At least my render of the pricing page gives that 700 searches per day are included in the $10 plan, with additional searches priced at ¢1.5. So 1000 searches would be $14.5 plus conversion fee if you don't have a dollar account.

It's 700 per month, not per day.

Ah, yes! That was a mistype from me, I meant to echo the previous comment but lower the count.

Re: DuckDuckGo removed the ability to filter search results

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Post by nicce »

_a9 wrote: post #187
p1esk wrote: post #144

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Kagi, Brave, you.com, Phind.

Been using Brave search since they released it. I used to fallback to Google but I've stopped using it recently, it has turned to absoulte crap always returning random spam or nothing at all unless I'm searching for something basic. Been falling back to Phind on dev stuff now if Brave doesnt have anything. Phind is something I would absolutely pay for when the time comes.

Phind is still a bit slow. By the time it finishes writing, I have found the solution with other search engine.

Re: DuckDuckGo removed the ability to filter search results

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Post by doubtfulcan »

freediver wrote: post #193
nltrf wrote: post #167

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I would use them if you could pay anonymously. Using a search engine where every query is tied to my credit card is not for me.

Searches are not tied to an account, Kagi does not even log searches. [1] What would be the point when your search history would just be a liability? That is the whole point of the paid search business model. [1] https://kagi.com/privacy

How would Kagi enforce quotas if they can't link searches to the account paying for them?

Re: DuckDuckGo removed the ability to filter search results

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Post by nickcox »

alex_smart wrote: post #120
nickcox wrote: post #88

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Doesn't work for me. Like the GP, I get results unrelated to Lowes, bedding or even pets.

That isn't how the quote feature is supposed to work. I just tried putting the individual keywords in quotes ("lowes" "pet" "bedding") and it works exactly like you would expect.

How is it supposed to work? I expect to see only those results that contain an exact match on the entire phrase between the quotes but perhaps I've misunderstood?

Re: DuckDuckGo removed the ability to filter search results

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Post by soco »

yosito wrote: post #229
soco wrote: post #227

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On a more general note I wonder why everybody is so convinced a paid service will cater to what they want? I can't imagine for my 10$ a month they would implement my bugfix or add that feature I'd love. I'm paying for MS Office or my car as well and boy do I have complaints about them... why would Kagi be any different? The only advantage I can think of is they would be less motivated to search alternative financing…

It's about their business model. If their business is to profit off of satisfying customers then they are going to be motivated to satisfy customers. If their business is to profit off of selling advertisements, then they're going to profit off of selling advertisements.

Volkswagen business model is to profit off satisfying customers, yet their menu navigation is censored and they were never bothered to change it. How's that working differently for Kagi? Paying Kagi users just got hit with a new price model which judging by the reactions around here was not very welcome. Yet they all keep selling products, both Kagi and Volkswagen, against customer complaints. Can we agree that there's a lot of gray area in the "customer is king" saying?

Re: DuckDuckGo removed the ability to filter search results

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Post by nicce »

midoridensha wrote: post #85
p-e-w wrote: post #67

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Firefox is near the lowest market share in its history, and declining further. Linux accounts for somewhere between 0.5% and 3% of the desktop OS market, depending on who you ask. Mastodon, Diaspora, Lemmy etc. are niche products used by far fewer than 1% of people. That's not competition . That's "some geeks built some stuff and a couple of people use it occasionally". If there were just two car manufacturers, and o…

>Firefox is near the lowest market share in its history, and declining further. Yes, but for now , it works just fine. Much better than Chrome IMO in fact. As long as Mozilla gets enough funding to continue development, this shouldn't change. >Linux accounts for somewhere between 0.5% and 3% of the desktop OS market, depending on who you ask. Why does this matter? It works fine for countless people and companies. I'm…

> Yes, but for now, it works just fine. Much better than Chrome IMO in fact. As long as Mozilla gets enough funding to continue development, this shouldn't change.

It has gotten worse. And mostly Cloudflare is fo blame.

Many sites are relying to Clouldflare and the human verification seems to work only in Chrome or Safari.

It breaks so many important pages and they don’t seem to care to fix it.

Re: DuckDuckGo removed the ability to filter search results

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Post by nickcox »

Svip wrote: post #95
nickcox wrote: post #88

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Doesn't work for me. Like the GP, I get results unrelated to Lowes, bedding or even pets.

Out of curiosity, I noticed (as I mentioned in a reply to your sibling) I could produce unrelated results by fiddling with the region; does changing region do anything for you?

Just tried to test it out and I'm now seeing correct results when I set the region to 'US' and an empty list of results when using my own region. This is not at all what I was seeing earlier.

Perhaps they're A/B testing or something?

Re: DuckDuckGo removed the ability to filter search results

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Post by doubtfulcan »

aliasxneo wrote: post #141
p-e-w wrote: post #89

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Privacy.com is US only. And of course, Privacy.com "virtual cards" are still linked to your real-world identity.

How would it get tied to you from the search engine perspective? You can fill in fake information with a Privacy card. They'd have to do some pretty intense investigation to somehow tie the card number back to you...just to sell your information. Seems unproductive.

A single leak could ruin your social relationships. Extortion bots are untiring and neverending. Just a moment ago our countries largest mental health institution had an IT-catastrophe, and thousands of influental people immediately got automatically extorted by bots.
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