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As far as I'm concerned if you 'bought' something, it should be yours to do as you please, including reselling and destroying it. If you didn't buy something, but rented it - for example a game on Steam or Epic Games store - then it should damned say so. It's a straight up lie to say you purchased something if you didn't.
Do you buy movie tickets, or do you rent them?
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Average person does not know what they want. They don’t know how technology works. They don’t even see difference between PWA and apps. If everything becomes PWA, there is no transparency for the apps. No indication what data they collect. No control for the quality of the apps. No moderation over malicious apps. PWAs need more permissions to provide the functionality people need, it is not just website.
I'm pretty sure "the average person doesn't know what they want" is a belief that powered everything from eugenics to genocide to our toxic culture around health, happiness and consumerism. So it appears the non-average person doesn't have a clue what's right for the clueless masses either. Liberty, choice, community and respect. That's all that is needed.
Respect, as you say, is important. Leaf by example.
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Average person does not know what they want. They don’t know how technology works. They don’t even see difference between PWA and apps. If everything becomes PWA, there is no transparency for the apps. No indication what data they collect. No control for the quality of the apps. No moderation over malicious apps. PWAs need more permissions to provide the functionality people need, it is not just website.
I'm pretty sure "the average person doesn't know what they want" is a belief that powered everything from eugenics to genocide to our toxic culture around health, happiness and consumerism. So it appears the non-average person doesn't have a clue what's right for the clueless masses either. Liberty, choice, community and respect. That's all that is needed.
I was referring into technical implementations and what risks are included. It requires deep undertanding how these things work. Average user does not have it. Many aspects are invisible to the end-users, like the war against malware in App Store.
The end-user knows what they want in terms of end-result. How to to get the job done with a tool (app). They can compare end-results.
Sometimes, however not all results all there to be compared. Because, they don’t understand what kind of tools can be actually created. They are happy with the current one because they think it is the best what can be.
Or, what else the tool can do besides their advertised functionality. Which can be malicious or harmful to user in another way.
Or tools could work in a better way, but are currently hindered for monetary gain.
All this requires specialised knowledge.
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Then Apple should have to call it “Subscribe to iPhone “ or “Gain admission to iPhone” or “Use iPhone” - but not “Buy iPhone” as they very much do. If you buy a piece of hardware, you buy a piece of hardware.
So you're also not buying an Xbox, Playstation, Switch, etc. right?
I think the central question here is: .) whether you buy a phone as a piece of hardware and then own that hardware - which gives you certain rights regarding the usage of that owned hardware or .) whether you are just paying some sort of admission fee to a tightly controlled service, and are basically "lent" a piece of hardware that you have no ownership rights over. All the other stuff about walled gardens, monopoli…
Is that the central question? Most people using Android or Apple's very own macOS today use their device as if they're in the second situation with not a care in the world. Anyone's walled garden experience isn't meaningfully dependent on anyone else's sanctioned sideloading or not.
Apple’s walled garden is most of my digital life, and at least for now, that is good enough. I can imagine switching to a Samsung foldable phone with a good docking story, but that will probably not happen.
EDIT: another things that keeps me from caring about being in a walled garden is that so much of my Intellectual life is serviced by the cloud: Colab Pro for most deep learning experiments, the web based Leanpub authoring system, etc. Choosing devices and operating systems seems less important. When I travel, it does not matter much if I grab my smallest Linux laptop or my iPad Pro to take on a trip.
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I can’t imagine a single scenario where your comment would be anything else than FUD. Nice try Tim Apple.
It's the state of desktop gaming already, why would it not happen on phones once the only barrier has been removed? Epic has been itching to use their own app store for years.
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If they want it, download the app then. Allow others to not download it and use a PWA if they'd like. Actually I believe you're wrong: if people actually preferred Apple's way of doing it, Apple would have no reason to restrict other ways. They restrict it because people prefer the other way, and that would harm Apple's profits.
Users don't choose what they use, they use what they must. I can't choose to use Signal if everybody uses WhatsApp. I can't choose a non-ElectronJS Slack client because it doesn't exist. If PWA is cheaper to make, companies will go there. Whether or not it's better for the users. Companies want to make money, not help users.
Yea but Apple is a company too…
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Apple's security and data collection argument for their walled garden is null and void. https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2023/02/27/beware-rogue-2fa... They don't look at API calls made by the apps. How can they be your sure of the security then? Only after this was published were the apps removed.
Every jailbreak ever has been on the magical secure "app store", too. It is really weird that people on here of all places believe in this garbage performative "app phrenology" they are doing over there.
Apple being motivated by improving security are BS, and it pains me te see people in this forum falling for it or reapeating this. There is a great tool to increase security: the browser and its sandbox. You don't need to install anything fishy on your phone, and the sandbox rights coukd be sufficient for many apps. But as an example, Apple denies the full screen feature for websites and even PWA... only installed on…
To this day the browser is still a second-tier experience to native apps. But that's fine, because anything you get from the macOS and iOS app stores are sandboxed too. So are non-App Store apps on macOS that choose to run in sandbox.
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There are multiple companies like Airalo offering pre-paid $5-15 eSIM cards for most countries in the world. They also offer continental and global eSIM working in multiple countries if you are moving a lot. The offering is a lot better than what you find at the border and you don’t have to get your passport scanned by a random person. Most backpackers I know switched a long time ago. It’s actually the scenario that…
I think you need to compare the service tier of what world eSim carriers provide before mentioning the price. Yes, you can get service for that price. It has paltry data allowances compared to what OP is describing.
In plenty of countries if you try buying straight from a local provider you can’t buy low amount of data or have to get voice with it. Meanwhile Airalo allows you to buy 1, 5 or 10GB for very cheap and topping up is pushing a button in their app.
I meant it when I said it was insanely more convenient.