iOS 17 app sideloading might only be available in Europe

Post by meling » Sun, Apr 23, 2023, 8:31 AM UTC

baby wrote: post #236

hooby wrote: post #143

I think the central question here is: .) whether you buy a phone as a piece of hardware and then own that hardware - which gives you certain rights regarding the usage of that owned hardware or .) whether you are just paying some sort of admission fee to a tightly controlled service, and are basically "lent" a piece of hardware that you have no ownership rights over. All the other stuff about walled gardens, monopoli…

Related question: what does the user want? I doubt a majority of users are against side loading.

Post by ntauthority » Sun, Apr 23, 2023, 8:33 AM UTC

jpalomaki wrote: post #180

I think Apple has also done good things with their strict app store policies (from my consumer point of view). Apple has been for example putting limits on data collection and tracking. The main mechanism is to kick apps out from Apps store if they don't play by the rules. I'm worried that side loading will be a step back here. Strong players, like Facebook, may just take their app away from the official store and di…

Post by zacksiri » Sun, Apr 23, 2023, 8:35 AM UTC

heavyset_go wrote: post #314

dist1ll wrote: post #261

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> Most of the cases are found to be on android devices. Do you have some relevant sources about banking fraud? Android devices make up more than 70% of Thailand's market share [0], so it's not a surprise. [0] https://www.statista.com/statistics/814490/market-share-mobi...

The Thai government's Ministry of Digital Economy & Society has made multiple public requests for iOS users[1], mentioning that they need to avoid specific iOS apps[1][2], as well. That means scam apps were being distributed via the App Store. Also, the government mentions that the scams affect users of both platforms, because the scams propagate via calls, web links and emails that ask for personal information[2]. […

Post by gambiting » Sun, Apr 23, 2023, 8:36 AM UTC

zacksiri wrote: post #320

gambiting wrote: post #266

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I absolutely disagree with your conclusion. It's like forbidding people from working on their own cars because some people are stupid and kill themselves through their work(and that kind of thing is neither rare nor unusual). And it's not like people with iOS are resistant to being scammed - there are hundreds of ways criminals can dupe you to sending them money, the invoice scam being the simplest example and it doe…

You should read this article[0]. It outlines clearly that victims are downloading .apk files [0] https://www.nationthailand.com/thailand/general/40024972 Also your comparison of people 'working on their own cars' is a bit off here. Most people buy cars to drive, and give the car to the mechanic to 'work on'. It's much much harder to repair your own car than to click a link that can scam you.

Post by YeBanKo » Sun, Apr 23, 2023, 8:37 AM UTC

Aaargh20318 wrote: post #214

m463 wrote: post #208

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This is naive. Apple doesn't protect you. The prime example is that apple gives apps unfettered access to network connections. And YOU are unable to block this in any meaningful way. What apple doesn't give you is the ability to manage your own phone. You cannot really manage what apps are doing yourself. You cannot even find out what apps are doing. And you definitely will not be able to manage apple apps, they get…

> The prime example is that apple gives apps unfettered access to network connections. (…) You cannot even find out what apps are doing. Settings -> Privacy & Security -> App Privacy Report It shows you per application what data they are accessing, which sensors they are accessing and which domains the app is contacting. It also reports when they were doing this and how often. You can even export this data as a JSON…