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The Windows 11 Trash Party

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It depends on the definition of target user/market. For IT professionals definitly yes.

that wasn't remotely the target of Active Desktop

Indeed that was for Electron like applications, and not at all matter of discussion.

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> They need to ask some deep questions of themselves of what they want Windows to be. I bet they did exactly that and the answer was: we're going to milk our users as long as Windows is still relevant. Windows doesn't seem to have much of a priority anymore at MS now that Azure is the new darling.

A classic mistake Apple has avoided. The Mac is not numerically their big platform but it’s key to their ecosystem so they have not abandoned it. Also Azure sucks compared to most other cloud providers so that’s not a basket I would put all my eggs in.

Aren't Apple starting to roll out more ads in various places?

Re: The Windows 11 Trash Party

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I dont know how to explain it. I’ve used all major OS’s including a couple of flavors of Linux. I just love windows. 11 is pretty awesome for me where I use it on my surface pro 8 and it’s just really nice especially with touch. Touch is definitely a huge part of my workflow too to the point that when I sit at my desktop I sometimes try to touch the screen. There are so many tiny quality of life things like being abl…

I would quibble about the fact that the screenshot functionality was stolen from macOS, but the thing that really kills me is your comment about File Explorer. My impression, after decades of Windows and now a decade of macOS, is that you just don't have to spend as much time with Finder in macOS as you do with Explorer on Windows. There's something about working on a Mac that simply alleviates a lot of the work of f…

For me it's the nature of the things I do on each OS.

I use MacOS almost exclusively for work. Most of my file browsing is done via terminal, most of the docs I access are somewhere in the cloud. I don't really mess around with stuff on my mac and don't need to open finder often

I use windows for everything else. The nature of "everything else" implies that I have a lot more weird programs and files scattered about, that I often need to find somewhere in program files or my junk folder because the start menu doesn't find it

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I've been daily driving Linux since March 2020 however recently purchased a Valve Index and decided to pop Win 10 on a completely empty secondary M.2. The setup kept failing because it just could not handle the fact that the primary M.2 had a Linux boot loader on it. It just refused to install. My work around was to setup a QEMU VM inside Linux where I provided the VM with the secondary M.2 as the main install drive.…

Excel is the big one. The web version is really, really good on its own terms, but desktop excel really is in a class of its own both in terms of capability and penetration. Yes, it does give people regular reasons to point and laugh at it, and it's probably dangerous how much of the modern world depends on it, but you only have to use a competitor for a very short period of time to realise that displacing it would b…

Except for compatibility (which will always be questionable with proprietary formats), I don't think most folks actually need Word or Excel. Most folks aren't delving into VBA and such, they just need a bunch of interlinked cells with a little math.

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If "Linux" could ever fix the consistent sound mixer / bluetooth issues, it could really be the de facto OS. I don't know how but across multiple people and distributions sound issues always start surfacing after 2-3 months.

What's wrong with PulseAudio? It's not great for pro use-cases with an unfortunately high latency (not that Windows's audio server is better in this regard), but it kinda has always just worked for me.

> What's wrong with PulseAudio?

What's wrong is that a lot of audio hardware is Windows hardware, i.e. subtly broken.

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And, you know, a ton of critical software that doesn’t run on Linux.

That population is shrinking. Having worked in very large (investment) Banks, other parts of the finance sector, the move is generally to divest from thick clients to web. The whole COVID situation pushed this along even faster with the reliance on diverse VDI solutions, which don't necessarily play very well with crummy in house thick client apps.

This might be true for business apps, but I don’t see any suitable replacements (by a long shot) for mechanical CAD, Adobe Suite, etc.

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> It’s stagnated in many respects You can’t say that with a straight face when the Finder on Mac has seen absolutely zero change since 2008. Windows Vista’s file controls blow every OS out of the water. I’m an Apple user and honestly I don’t remember the last useful feature added other the Universal Clipboard. I asked ChatGPT for a rundown and I just see a list of “moved things around and refreshed the UI”

> Windows Vista’s file controls blow every OS out of the water. KDE's Dolphin File manager can: 1) Split the file window in two with a simple button press. 2) Pressing F4 opens an embedded terminal in the current directory. 3) Provides a super easy way of adding network drives, and a whole view to save them to. 4) Tags for organising files / folders. 5) Pressing space puts it into a super simple "Selection Mode". The…

Windows could (can?) read all the metadata out of MP3s and photos and edit it, use it as columns and virtual groups/folders (IIRC). Most file managers I know are limited to filenames and a couple of dates attached (tags are too easy to implement, they’re manual, I’m not impressed)

Coming from Vista, Tiger’s Finder was a joke and it still is to this day (with the obvious exception of QuickLook, which is great)

I don’t know anything about Linux, I just wanted to point out that macOS hasn’t seen much improvement in the past decade other than continuous shuffling and redesigns.

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> It’s stagnated in many respects You can’t say that with a straight face when the Finder on Mac has seen absolutely zero change since 2008. Windows Vista’s file controls blow every OS out of the water. I’m an Apple user and honestly I don’t remember the last useful feature added other the Universal Clipboard. I asked ChatGPT for a rundown and I just see a list of “moved things around and refreshed the UI”

> I asked ChatGPT for a rundown and I just see a list of “moved things around and refreshed the UI” Why would you even admit that? Embarrassing.

Lol

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> It’s stagnated in many respects You can’t say that with a straight face when the Finder on Mac has seen absolutely zero change since 2008. Windows Vista’s file controls blow every OS out of the water. I’m an Apple user and honestly I don’t remember the last useful feature added other the Universal Clipboard. I asked ChatGPT for a rundown and I just see a list of “moved things around and refreshed the UI”

> Windows Vista’s file controls blow every OS out of the water. Please elaborate.

This is a file manager, but it acts as a Media Library. See how it can show the music’s metadata in the columns. You can edit all of the metadata, even in batch.

https://i.stack.imgur.com/7iF2D.png

Here you can find a few examples of its features. Skip the sorting and look at the grouping, custom metadata filtering, etc. not to mention the advanced search with any of this metadata.

https://www.digitalcitizen.life/transform-windows-explorer-f...

It has a field for “word count” (!!!) while in Finder I’m lucky if it remembers that I want my files to NOT appear overlapped on the desktop.

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My assumption is they want to pivot into Windows being really free of charge, with it monetised through advertising. Putting all this junk into the Start menu is testing the waters.

If they must go that route, I sincerely hope they offer a paid SKU in the traditional $100-200 range that dispenses with all of that. It's kinda icky, but if they want to offer a Pro version that's all clean and tidy for money, and a crappy, ad-laden version for free...I don't want to think of all the shitty bargain PCs people will be stuck with, but at least I'll be able to keep building a new PC every 8-10 years wi…

Agreed! If I need a copy of Windows, I'd happily pay for a license that lets me run it without ads and other annoying crapware.
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