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The Windows 11 Trash Party

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Post by red-iron-pine »

pjmlp wrote: post #248
muyuu wrote: post #124

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If containers had been a thing, many of the wild MS ideas of the early 2000s wouldn't have been actually crazy.

They were a thing, on mainframes, micro-computers, and a few selected UNIXes like the (shortly lived) Tru64 and HP-UX. My introduction to containers was HP-UX Vaults.

Aye, BSD jails have been around for a while, and the chroot jail has been a concept since I've been using *nix OS's.

But there wouldn't have been the hardware, resources, or depth of support available for the end user in the 2000s. There are still non-technical folks I deal w/ at work that don't get what a VM is...

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Post by anthk »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #382
anthk wrote: post #341

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Install GMDX on top of Deus Ex.

Yes, that was something that, for some reason, helped compatibility - there's a launcher that's bundled with it. My plan is to complete it, slowly, then go from the start again with the Revision mod.

The Revision mod it's really bad. GMDX gives consistency and it doesn't have nonsensic Chinese characters in Hong Kong.

Also, it doesn't crap out the lightning, neither makes superficial changes because of "look, shiny!!!".

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Post by red-iron-pine »

hparadiz wrote: post #108

I've been daily driving Linux since March 2020 however recently purchased a Valve Index and decided to pop Win 10 on a completely empty secondary M.2. The setup kept failing because it just could not handle the fact that the primary M.2 had a Linux boot loader on it. It just refused to install. My work around was to setup a QEMU VM inside Linux where I provided the VM with the secondary M.2 as the main install drive.…

Any luck getting the Index to work on linux? I hacked away at it for about 3 months w/ Fedora but kept running into issues, random stuff like making sure the names weren't capitalized in files, etc.

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Post by Seanambers »

nstart wrote: post #31

Windows is my daily driver. I actually like the OS but Microsoft would do well to listen to these concerns being raised consistently. They need to ask some deep questions of themselves of what they want Windows to be. This reminds me of the days where Ballmers goal seemed to be to lock everyone into Windows and MS products when the real upside turned out to be “make MS products fully available where people already ar…

Deep questions like why didn't anyone like Metro UI on Windows 8? :) Even on touch devices it sucked.

I would say that was an obvious sign of a a sick organization when it effects that kind of carnage on its users. Only reason they got away with it, was that there were no real alternatives to Windows. Windows 11 is something in the same league, but i would say there are more alternatives now than ever before, so Microsoft better watch out.

Got my first Macbook this year after 25+ years on windows/linux. The more I use it the more I like it much in the same way as when i started using iPhones 8 years ago.

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Post by api »

flohofwoe wrote: post #231
nstart wrote: post #31

Windows is my daily driver. I actually like the OS but Microsoft would do well to listen to these concerns being raised consistently. They need to ask some deep questions of themselves of what they want Windows to be. This reminds me of the days where Ballmers goal seemed to be to lock everyone into Windows and MS products when the real upside turned out to be “make MS products fully available where people already ar…

> They need to ask some deep questions of themselves of what they want Windows to be. I bet they did exactly that and the answer was: we're going to milk our users as long as Windows is still relevant. Windows doesn't seem to have much of a priority anymore at MS now that Azure is the new darling.

A classic mistake Apple has avoided. The Mac is not numerically their big platform but it’s key to their ecosystem so they have not abandoned it.

Also Azure sucks compared to most other cloud providers so that’s not a basket I would put all my eggs in.

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Post by muyuu »

pjmlp wrote: post #286
muyuu wrote: post #274

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they were not a thing that commodity hardware, but most importantly the target user, was really prepared to run at the time same as virtual machines were a thing in the early 70s and client-server in the 80s, but not for the target market despite the industry thought so for some time

It depends on the definition of target user/market. For IT professionals definitly yes.

that wasn't remotely the target of Active Desktop

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Post by wslh »

gymbeaux wrote: post #353
wslh wrote: post #302

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I use and try multiple operating systems at work: Windows, macOS, Linux, iOS, tried ChromeOS Flex, etc. Windows 11 doesn't pass basic UX principles and I would not rant about bluetooth devices handling. Also, the performance of the UI is subpar ChromeOS flex in 8 years old notebooks. There are multiple UIs inserted by pressure in the same OS. I know the kernel itself is quite advanced, the problem is at higher layers…

I use Linux (usually Ubuntu or a derivative), macOS and Windows 11 regularly. To me they all “suck”. They all have shortcomings, and my constant switching between them only proves that there isn’t a clear winner. I can think of at least two “dumb” things with each that are easy to address but for whatever reason…. Aren’t. I will say desktop Linux has been the worst experience for me, and it’s been that way since 2010…

It would be great if you can elaborate how you favorite OS would be.

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Post by Mindwipe »

qikInNdOutReply wrote: post #247
flohofwoe wrote: post #231

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> They need to ask some deep questions of themselves of what they want Windows to be. I bet they did exactly that and the answer was: we're going to milk our users as long as Windows is still relevant. Windows doesn't seem to have much of a priority anymore at MS now that Azure is the new darling.

I bet that there is already some Linux version reverse-developed inside Microsoft with a windows copy on top and a working compatability layer below.

I doubt it.

For a start, it doesn't appear from Windows 11 that "looking, feeling or acting like the Windows UI that users want" is actually something very high up the priority list for Microsoft.

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Post by Mindwipe »

Closi wrote: post #287
muyuu wrote: post #133

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At some point MS decided their main rival is Google not Apple. Perhaps they're right. I'm not a MS user other than occasionally when work requires it, haven't really been for many many years. But looking at their stock and profit, I can't say they are doing badly at all. At some point, especially when your focus is the consumer market, you're not going to be so scrupulous with certain choices where the trade-off is p…

I think they decided that Apple is a coopetitor - i.e. they are a competitor on multiple fronts but they ultimately need to support their products operating on Apple's platform.

I think the Office team might feel that way. I'm not sure the rest of the company does.

(We'd probably have seen a bit more movement towards making DirectX workable on M-series chips if that were a broad MS feeling.)

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Post by regularfry »

minimaul wrote: post #361
delta_p_delta_x wrote: post #334

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Not until extremely recently[1] for fractional scaling. In my books, this is non-working HiDPI, because on Windows, my 15.6-inch full-HD notebook display is at 1.25× scaling, and my 27-inch UHD monitor is at 1.75× scaling. And since this is so recent, most DEs don't have support for this yet. I was using mixed-DPI set-ups with no fanfare with Windows 8 , 11 years ago. And Windows had initial HiDPI support with Window…

I used to do this on Windows and found a ton of apps either broke their layout or got blurry when moved between monitors, so I wouldn't class Windows as 'ideal' here either :/

Not only moving the app itself between monitors. I fairly regularly get mis-scaled icons in the task bar when I've unplugged my laptop from its screen while it's closed.

I have yet to figure out how to get QT apps (and FreeCAD is particularly awful here) how to play well - there's always something scaled wrong no matter what I do.

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