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Re: Samsung considers moving to Bing as default search engine

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Post by shmapf »

piyush_soni wrote: post #19
tapoxi wrote: post #3

What's Sundar's goal for Google? They seem to be aimless since he took the helm.

That's exactly what I think. I personally also find him very uninspiring, it looks like he's basically just 'maintaining' the company on auto-pilot mode. No out of the world new ideas, and now the company is losing on the very field they were seemingly far-far ahead than the rest of the world.

I agree, and on top of that Google products used to be, in my experience of top notch quality. But over the past couple of years I'm seeing more and more bugs in Google maps, chrome, and android. I think they've really let the quality bar slip. They were/are in such a dominant position it's taking a long time to crumble, but crumbling they seem to be, slowly but surely.

Re: Samsung considers moving to Bing as default search engine

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Post by berniedurfee »

snotrockets wrote: post #591
bdavisx wrote: post #218

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What makes them "wonderful engineers"? The vast majority are very smart, and obviously can code 'leet code like no tomorrow, but that doesn't make them wonderful. Remember when the person who created homebrew couldn't get a job at google. That person created software used by a lot of people. He saw something that "needed fixing" and he fixed it. He fixed it so well a bunch of other people started using his fix. That'…

Go isn't replacement for C++, and no one can handle C++.

Yeah, I agree with this. Odd comment about Go being C++ with training wheels. I don’t think that’s the case.

Go is a great first-class language on its own merits.

Re: Samsung considers moving to Bing as default search engine

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Post by birdyrooster »

visarga wrote: post #409
rmbyrro wrote: post #184

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The thing is: Google is threatened for the first time in its decades of history. It might not be better, yet, but it definitely is a real and existential threat to Google.

Google is threatened by MS and OA, OA is threatened by Stable Diffusion and MiniGPT-4. We are wondering if there will still be developer work in 10 years. Everyone is threatened.

If anything we will have more work because we will have more people capable of churning it out at a predictable rate.

Re: Samsung considers moving to Bing as default search engine

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Post by carlosjobim »

paulpan wrote: post #467
ksec wrote: post #36

This is basically Samsung asking Google to pay up. Google needs to pay Apple / iOS for Default Search Engine, and paying Samsung for staying on Android with Google Search. Basically Google is being squeezed left and right. So the only way to increase revenue or profits to satisfy the money they spend on Apple and Samsung? More Ads on Youtube and Google Search. The more Ads they serve, the worse UX they have. All whil…

The frenemy status of Google-Samsung is once again on display. Samsung probably hasn't been happy with the Google's continued Pixel phone push :p But why is Google paying Apple to be the default search engine on iOS devices? It seems a waste of money as Apple would be stupid to default to any other search engine given the lower search quality results. End users would notice if there was a result degradation and likel…

Apple could spin up a better search engine than Google in a swirley. The big question is why haven't they!?

Re: Samsung considers moving to Bing as default search engine

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Post by kccqzy »

pteraspidomorph wrote: post #549
ChildOfChaos wrote: post #335

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'People have been saying for years that their search results are trash'. Have they? I hear people say this on Hacker news but i've never heard it anywhere else, people seem to be using the internet just fine with Google as there main search engine, what is the alternative? Bing? It's still trash and Bing Chat is like a worse version of ChatGPT, I don't see it replacing Google currently.

Bing Chat was better but after three months of very hard work Microsoft successfully managed to remove all the good parts.

How naïve of Microsoft! They clearly didn't have enough experience to know that they have to remove the good parts and make it bland in order to make the product viable.

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Post by anotherman554 »

roncesvalles wrote: post #598
anotherman554 wrote: post #497

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Are you comparing Google to the "new A.I. powered Bing, only in Microsoft edge" or to the normal Bing search engine?

The Bing search engine not the chatbot. Is there some v2 Bing search engine? A quick Bing search didn't reveal anything about it.

The Bing chatbot searches the web for you, it doesn't just spit out answers like ChatGPT. There's no clear distinction between the Chatbot and a search engine.

I just asked it about something in today's news and it answered it and provided links to 6 news articles on that topic.

Re: Samsung considers moving to Bing as default search engine

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Post by AndrewKemendo »

tapoxi wrote: post #3

What's Sundar's goal for Google? They seem to be aimless since he took the helm.

The same job as every public company CEO: Keep their job by prioritizing the stock price, board happiness and keeping activist shareholders from causing problems

Re: Samsung considers moving to Bing as default search engine

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Post by SSLy »

carlosjobim wrote: post #644
paulpan wrote: post #467

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The frenemy status of Google-Samsung is once again on display. Samsung probably hasn't been happy with the Google's continued Pixel phone push :p But why is Google paying Apple to be the default search engine on iOS devices? It seems a waste of money as Apple would be stupid to default to any other search engine given the lower search quality results. End users would notice if there was a result degradation and likel…

Apple could spin up a better search engine than Google in a swirley. The big question is why haven't they!?

They already have one -- it's the iOS spotlight Web search

Re: Samsung considers moving to Bing as default search engine

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Post by [deleted] »

traveler01 wrote: post #127

Google constant failure astonish me. How a company with so much money, so many wonderful engineers can't produce a source of income other than the search engine? I kept reading news about Google's AI programs, how the hell was Microsoft with OpenAI that came up with the biggest hit in AI? Also, how does Google want people to use their new services if they keep closing them down after their "failure" (a.k.a Google com…

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Re: Samsung considers moving to Bing as default search engine

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Post by carlosjobim »

rurp wrote: post #615
chankstein38 wrote: post #225

Maybe an unpopular opinion but it feels like Google is near useless anymore. Between results containing outdated or broken links to empty discussions, and ads being their main priority as well as "fuzzy search results" where you can search for one thing and get something completely unrelated because Google decided you also meant to search for something else that is possibly contextually adjacent, I can't really get g…

I find that forums are often some of the most useful results. The posts are typically written by genuine people, many of whom are passionate about the subject matter. Reliability can be an issue, but the medium at least provides a number of context clues to help. Seeing how individuals write and interact is helpful when judging how much weight to give to their words. Converting those forum posts into a generic and ov…

Yes, but maybe 5 times out of 10 the forum has your question, but not your answer. Add to this that guy on the Apple support forums, who has destroyed millions of lives by repeating the same answer to every thread opened for the last 15 years.
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