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I’ve been single all my life

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Re: I’ve been single all my life

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Not so. For one, trans women are women, but are not biologically female. For another, being a woman is primarily about fulfilling a certain role in society, having a certain relationship to people based on your gender and theirs. That's got very little to do with biological sex. Like I said, there's nothing biological about wearing dresses. Kilts and skirts are virtually identical, but one of them is seen as very mas…

Nops. Trans "women" are not women. They don't meet any biological criteria for that, they can't operate functionally as woman. There are not trans-females in any other species, as this is exclusivelly a cultural and psychological phenomena in humans. As you said yourself, there's nothing biological about wearing dresses, thus, using a dress doesn't make you a woman. As human beings, trans people deserve care and resp…

Trans women are women. No other species may have trans individuals, but no other species has men or women either, or if they do, it's beyond our understanding (in the same way our understanding of their vocalizations or the way they think or experience is limited). Wearing a dress doesn't make you a woman, identifying as a woman and fulfilling that role in society does (which does often involve wearing dresses).

If you support trans people's right to exist as humans, maybe it behooves you to educate yourself about the difference between gender and sex, so that you don't repeat transphobic talking points.

Re: I’ve been single all my life

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Nops. Trans "women" are not women. They don't meet any biological criteria for that, they can't operate functionally as woman. There are not trans-females in any other species, as this is exclusivelly a cultural and psychological phenomena in humans. As you said yourself, there's nothing biological about wearing dresses, thus, using a dress doesn't make you a woman. As human beings, trans people deserve care and resp…

Trans women are women. No other species may have trans individuals, but no other species has men or women either, or if they do, it's beyond our understanding (in the same way our understanding of their vocalizations or the way they think or experience is limited). Wearing a dress doesn't make you a woman, identifying as a woman and fulfilling that role in society does (which does often involve wearing dresses). If y…

Obviously we disagree on the fundamental point, but I appreciate that you took your time to have a civil discussion with me, and this makes me appreciate your point of view more rationally. I will definitelly think more about it. Who knows? maybe I'm wrong.

Re: I’ve been single all my life

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Exactly - work on yourself, get yourself around other people, and interest will follow. Have yet to see this not work.

There are two problems I see with just saying this - "working on yourself" is left unclearly defined - the assumption that you have to "work on yourself" before you can get in front of other people (apologies if that wasn't what you were insinuating but I've been given this advice by others) Addressing the first the most obvious way that society deems "working on yourself" if I had to guess is going to therapy. Well…

> "working on yourself" is left unclearly defined

The things people have been talking about in this thread. Get in shape. Consider improvements to other aspects of your appearance like hair, skincare, and clothing. Work on your personality by developing hobbies that get you around the kind of people you want to meet, make conscious effort to improve social skills.

> the assumption that you have to "work on yourself" before you can get in front of other people (apologies if that wasn't what you were insinuating but I've been given this advice by others)

Sometimes getting in front of other people is all that is needed. But if your current practices aren’t seeing the results you expect after the passage of time, then it’s worth considering whether an adjustment is needed.

> Addressing the first the most obvious way that society deems "working on yourself" if I had to guess is going to therapy. Well I have troubles going to therapy because evidently some part of my brain related to forming any sort of human relationship (romantic friendly business or therapeutic) is stunted.

Not necessarily but in many cases therapists can point you in the right direction! Also, if you’ve had a go with therapy a few times with no results, it’s possible that garden variety therapy practices aren’t for you and you need more specialized expertise. You might want to check out any university medical centers in your area that offer psychotherapy. The intake can take longer and there’s more bureaucracy but the quality can be a lot higher.

> Addressing the second, I think that would contribute to more alone time for someone seeking self help, whereas experience by doing is better for learning. Though, by now Ive learned the hard way that dragging my clearance-shelf mind into someone elses good time feels like it would be selfish to them and unfulfilling for me, but thats me personally

IDK where you live, but living on the West Coast I know exactly what you mean, the “positive vibes only” culture can be incredibly draining. I would say two things.

1. Not everywhere is like this, and if you can move, you might find the social environment in another place more to your liking. Midwesterners and New Yorkers famously love to complain.

2. There’s also an element where you have to learn to suppress negativity around new people. As your friendship becomes deeper - it doesn’t have to be all that deep - you can drop the mask and reveal how you really think. You will likely find that more people think like you than you might imagine, they’re just more practiced at masking.

Re: I’ve been single all my life

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If you want those people to like you, you have to be relaxed and confident, which means you have to genuinely enjoy and be good at the thing. I like & am good at a reasonable spread of activities, some of which I can even do with friends, but the only ones that bring me new connections are work or work-adjacent. The activities known for meeting people contain nothing I'd actually do for its own sake. Maybe nerdy peop…

I think that big issue in "nerd" circles is the tendency to believe that everyone who attempts to engage in something they don't have as core hobby, is a beginner, is only dabbling in or is just checking out or purely for socializing is a poser doing something wrong. So, they avoid trying to engage in other activities and treat newbies with suspicion. Outside of "nerd" circles, it is normal to engage in activities fo…

> engage in something they don't have as core hobby, is a beginner, is only dabbling in or is just checking out or purely for socializing is a poser doing something wrong.

Have those people forgotten that for literally everything they do now, they started as a clueless newbie just checking it out?

Amazing.

Re: I’ve been single all my life

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> On the one hand, I get lonely, intensely lonely at times. And I miss the companionship I had (before it got awful.) I know the feeling, though perhaps not so deeply. My LTR was only 7 years. > Dating seems dire these days as well. Depending on your religious moors, you might consider hitting some conservative churches.

> Depending on your religious moors, you might consider hitting some conservative churches. If OP is a Spaniard, they might not like "religious moors". Not to be pedantic, but I think you meant "mores" (pronounced like "morays").

Oh, thank you!

I always thought it was a sailing reference to moorings.

Re: I’ve been single all my life

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Interesting, I hadn't heard about research into how introversion affects dating outcomes. Can you post the sources you're relying on here? I want to read more on this.

There aren’t any, because it’s nonsense. Even introvert and extravert is mainly a myth; during experiments there are no clear measurable differences. One recent study even claimed the only difference was that introverts were slightly smarter. There is also no measured connection between being an introvert and having low testosterone. And in fact around 2/3 of all psychological research cannot be reproduced. Take any…

That's my base assumption, but I figured my message would be more likely to create a dialog to clear up the nonsense.

Re: I’ve been single all my life

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First off, bravo for sharing. Much respect. That said, this is borderline navel gazing. Stop thinking about "what it's like to go swimming" and jump in the lake. Yes, you'll get wet, look stupid, and make a mess. There's no way around that. The sooner the better. If you need to reason yourself into the water, I recommend "The Village Effect." Statistically, humans fair better with a rich tapestry of relationships. Ar…

> yes you’ll look stupid i wouldn’t under estimate how crippling of a fear this is. you wouldn’t tell a depressed person “cheer up!”

Speaking personally, oftentimes I truly want something but am afraid to fail and look stupid in the process. Laboring under a false sense of indifference is terrible, though. It’s inauthentic. Living like that is uncomfortable.

So for the author, and whomever else, I'd ask, are you being honest with yourself or are you turning away from fear?

Either something is worth the risk, galvanizing yourself, and taking your shot whatever the results, or it’s not. If it’s the later, let it go and move on. If you can’t move on, why not? Are you being honest with yourself? Deep down, you know the answer, because it’s a feeling. An intuition.

Ambivalence. Living in between these two states is painful. You’re attached to something but scared to reach out for it. It’s life under tension.

At a certain point, you can't resolve this tension by sitting in place and thinking deeply. You're not just a mind. You have to use your body, too.

Re: I’ve been single all my life

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First off, bravo for sharing. Much respect. That said, this is borderline navel gazing. Stop thinking about "what it's like to go swimming" and jump in the lake. Yes, you'll get wet, look stupid, and make a mess. There's no way around that. The sooner the better. If you need to reason yourself into the water, I recommend "The Village Effect." Statistically, humans fair better with a rich tapestry of relationships. Ar…

> yes you’ll look stupid i wouldn’t under estimate how crippling of a fear this is. you wouldn’t tell a depressed person “cheer up!”

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Re: I’ve been single all my life

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Introversion has drastically different effects for men and women in the dating market. An introverted woman will still get approached by men, so even if she intentionally opts out of dating, she can always opt back in pretty much on the fly if a guy she likes approaches her. So she will still get relationships, if she wants them. Introverted men, on the other hand, often just don't pursue women, especially if they ha…

Interesting, I hadn't heard about research into how introversion affects dating outcomes. Can you post the sources you're relying on here? I want to read more on this.

Sounds like he made a few claims: 1) "An introverted woman will still get approached by men", 2) "Introverted men, on the other hand, often just don't pursue women, especially if they have low testosterone (or sex drive) as the OP probably does", 3) "In most cultures men are expected to do the initial approach", 4) "introverted men are often very bad at reading women's signals", 5) "women just don't need to signal that much to get results".

1, 3 and 5 feel like super common sense to me, were you asking for sources on that? I'm asking mostly because I wonder whether my intuition is completely off when it comes to these things, or if there are people who live in completely different realities where women are expected to make the first step, more women approach men than the opposite and men really don't need to signal interest because they get so many offers.

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