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Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me?

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If people added their location it would be a lot more useful.

Location is irrelevant to most, if not all, forms of knowledge work. The pandemic pushed remote work style and it's unlikely to put that genie back in the bottle. Butt-in-seat mentality is for dinosaurs.

The problem is: this is absolutely not true in the real world.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/19/us/politics/afghanistan-d... Anyone that gets into defense because of this thread, remember that the technologies you develop will be used to slaughter the innocent.

At the moment America's opponents are leading the slaughtering.

And in another moment it’s the US again.

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Agreed. Where I work we hire people from Lockheed all the time. Meta? We wouldn't touch them. Move fast and break things isn't the mentality we're looking for when working with what the Department of Homeland Security has classified as National Critical Infrastructure. If our service goes down, civilization goes down. We can't afford to hire people who've spent a career playing games.

> Meta? We wouldn't touch them. is this your employer's policy? Or do you just fail them in in the interview regardless of their performance.

Their performance would be considered very carefully - and I'm not talking about leet coding exercises. We don't prioritize solving silly problems. We prioritize people who can get stuff done, using a technology portfolio that ranges from ultra-modern to 15 year legacy and make it all work together. The ability to estimate and deliver are highly prized.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/19/us/politics/afghanistan-d... Anyone that gets into defense because of this thread, remember that the technologies you develop will be used to slaughter the innocent.

Cold War Kid here. I grew up in a neighborhood where a significant faction of the fathers were engineers working for a major defense contractor. The Tomahawk Cruise Missile, the Aegis Anti-Missile System, the Abrams Night Vision system - those are just a few of the projects our dads were working on. Everyone in the community, us kids included, considered this to be serious and vital work for defending the US from the…

> Everyone in the community, us kids included, considered this to be serious and vital work for defending the US from the USSR

Yes, because the US had one of the most effective propaganda machines of all times.

You know, participants of a war always believe their side is right and they’re fighting the good fight. Otherwise they wouldn’t do it. And while you’re certainly right that Putin shouldn’t be considered harmless, a victim or even an opponent with equally valid interests, it’s still naive to think the US is just defending against the Putins in the world.

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For a more balanced take, “Why I chose a gun” https://www.ted.com/talks/peter_van_uhm_why_i_chose_a_gun

Why is that a “more balanced take?”

If the alternative is a world where these weapons systems don't exist? I’m afraid that is a fantasy world which would quickly be ceded to the bigger stick. So consideration of military force requires balance, reverence, and respect. Posting something like “btw if you work in defense you’re a baby killer” is more insult than reasoned debate.

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I know the exact feeling. I have over 10 years experience in tech and ~7 years in product. Typically I am looking at 2-3 offers when interviewing for a me job but this time around I methodically applied to nearly 100 jobs with only a handful of interviews and only 1 offer! (which wasn't even a tech company). I know the job market is supposedly in good place but for tech workers it seems to be the worst market I have seen since I've enter the workforce.

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I went through the process in the fall (starting about a month before being laid off, as it turns out) with almost 25 YOE. My background includes significant startup experience at all levels, plus FAANG and some bigger companies. It took me about 3 months to find a role. The process itself was unlike anything I'd ever experienced before. I've always been very targeted in applications, so prior to this the largest num…

> A not-so-fun fact is that all but one large-company recruiter I talked this has since been laid off. So 9 out of 10 were laid off? That's pretty shocking and dire if so...

Not exactly shocking if you’ve been following tech layoffs. Companies only need recruiters when they’re hiring.

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FAANG is shorthand for Facebook, Amazon, Apple, Netflix and Google, not a specific tech stack.

The point is that an engineer at a FAANG likely owns a miniscule fraction of the stack, whatever that may be. The average company doesn't need or want someone who is so deeply specialised.

This is such a ridiculous notion to be that I find a hard time lending it any credence. The reason average companies pass on FAANG is generally that they can’t afford them. Not “oh, this guy isn’t Jack-of-all-trades enough, we’re really looking for a midrate web contractor that still uses jquery but also knows some SQL”.

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Meta point (pun unintended): the gravy times are over for us SW engineers, and I won’t be surprised if looking back many will see the past decade as a wasted opportunity for some sort of collective bargaining, or a greater seat at the table of businesses

People said that in 2002. There's always been ebb and flow since the beginning of time. Irrational exuberance is the nature of crowds of speculators.

Was there talk of tech worker unionization before 2002 tho?
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