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Re: Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me?

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Post by Our_Benefactors »

skyyler wrote: post #82
howmayiannoyyou wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, would be great to live in a magic land, where the US has no competitors, adversaries and sworn enemies. But this isn't magic land. US defense contractors are very much for profit and deliver a product that deters or kills some very bad people, more and more discriminating between collateral damage and intended targets - far more than can be said of Russian in Ukraine, for example. There's an entire generation i…

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/19/us/politics/afghanistan-d... Anyone that gets into defense because of this thread, remember that the technologies you develop will be used to slaughter the innocent.

For a more balanced take, “Why I chose a gun” https://www.ted.com/talks/peter_van_uhm_why_i_chose_a_gun

Re: Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me?

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Post by [deleted] »

skyyler wrote: post #82
howmayiannoyyou wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, would be great to live in a magic land, where the US has no competitors, adversaries and sworn enemies. But this isn't magic land. US defense contractors are very much for profit and deliver a product that deters or kills some very bad people, more and more discriminating between collateral damage and intended targets - far more than can be said of Russian in Ukraine, for example. There's an entire generation i…

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/19/us/politics/afghanistan-d... Anyone that gets into defense because of this thread, remember that the technologies you develop will be used to slaughter the innocent.

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Re: Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me?

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Post by some-guy »

I can only speak from the hiring side: I've been working at the same large-ish enterprise company in the Bay Area for 9 years out of college. Up until this year, it was nearly impossible to hire anybody qualified. We are now drowning in candidates from FAANG, rejecting candidates that would have passed with flying colors just last year.

Re: Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me?

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Post by 0xDEF »

Here in Europe I have noticed that the task of auditing software for safety/privacy compliancy is going to lawyers, chartered accountants, and business consultants.

Is it because they are cheaper? Not really, in most of Western Europe these people make the same or more than software developers.

We tech people need to be more assertive and protective of our cake.

Why does the EverybodyShouldLearnToCode™ movement even exist? I don't see lawyers, accountants and business consultants pushing for their cake to become smaller.

Re: Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me?

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Post by throwaway384jd »

Staff engineer here, I can confirm the market is brutal.

Readers, if you are wondering how to help: please read my résumé before interviews, and ideally, look at my github. I’ve been rejected for roles because I did not mention something in the interview, even though it is clearly on my résumé. Also please take cultural differences into account. I got a rejection because during the architectural interview, I phrased some of questions as “In this case, if X, I would…” instead of asking a direct question. English is not my first language, I did the best I can, it was disappointing to be rejected for that.

Re: Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me?

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Post by whiplash451 »

throwaway5959 wrote: post #52
gumballindie wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> FAANG experience Probably the reason. Most companies need people with experience in more than just one layer of a stack. Hard times for those who cant own a full stack, unfortunately.

I look at FAANG experience as a negative for startup work. I’d much prefer to hire someone with five years of experience at three startups than five years of experience at Google.

Did OP say he sas applying at startups?

Re: Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me?

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Post by TrueGeek »

gabereiser wrote: post #25
ivanstegic wrote: post #19

I believe that the market is correcting and that salaries will be going down.

On the contrary… I’m not seeing any evidence of this. If anything, salaries are going up.

What's your vantage point though? Are you a "normal" senior seeing salaries going up from $175k and GP is a FAANG seeing salaries going down from $400k?

note: I don't have data points for either, I'm genuinely curious

Re: Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me?

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Post by abeppu »

eschneider wrote: post #61
1differential wrote: post #18

It's extremely brutal. I'm a staff engineer and a tech lead of ~12 engineers, I've either been getting low ball offers, or ending the last round of interviews to get no offer. I've employed but have been looking for a job for ~6 months with terrible results. I graduated from a T5 school, have worked at a "unicorn" startup, and have an average of 3 years at every role. My conversion rate is a little better - 3 intervi…

I interviewed from Jan-Feb pretty much as a full time job. Lots of applications out, maybe 5-10 well-researched applications a day which yielded one or two interviews a day for that time period. Three went to offers and I'm pretty sure I could have closed a few more if I hadn't taken the job I did. I've done everything from UI to cloud to embedded stuff, but I was mostly focusing on embedded roles thinking that a) I…

> most seem willing to pay around 'market rate' for folks

What does this mean? What do the quotes mean?

This seems to be nearly a tautology; the market rate is what people are willing to pay.

Re: Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me?

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Post by comte7092 »

sph wrote: post #66
gumballindie wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> FAANG experience Probably the reason. Most companies need people with experience in more than just one layer of a stack. Hard times for those who cant own a full stack, unfortunately.

I am very good at all layers of the stack (except maybe just decent on the frontend), yet it's hard to stand out when any open position has 500+ resumes applying for it. My self esteem and confidence is at an all time low. It is soul-crushing to have had a brilliant career and get barely 1% response rate. I can't only blame it on my CV being terrible (went through half a dozen iterations already)

This is what the job market has been like for non tech workers for the last decade.

You can’t take things personally, focus on the process and just understand that things are outside of your control. You’ll get bites eventually but it’s a slog.

Re: Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me?

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Post by 93po »

0xDEF wrote: post #55

>Submitted 150 job applications last week. Try customizing a few of the applications for the specific position you look to fill.

Yeah this was what I noticed too. I write custom cover letters for jobs that I apply to, and it often takes 30-60 minutes. Sometimes I'll even tailor my resume for the ad. But I also only apply for a job every week or two, and I only apply to ones that I'm actually very interested in.
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