There are quite a lot of people hiring which have multiple job postings though. It doesn't invalidate that it is the highest but it doesn't mean that it's almost 1:1. It also doesn't mean that those people are out of a job. My company is mandating RTO 3 days a week, that's a good reason to look for a new position, while still being employed.
Yep. Large corporate (non-tech) job boards have hundreds of listings open for tech jobs
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#172Earlier quoted context omitted.
To answer what you were probably going to look for in the link: peak was March 2020 (1.19), when Covid got real, bottom was April 2018 (0.067), don't know any particular significance of that month.
FED started raising interest rates in 2017[1]. The market didn't really start reacting until 2018, and by 2019 the FED got cold feet and was lowering rates again. [1] https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/DFEDTARU
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#173Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It does amuse me that we're still at more people hiring than looking for jobs I would definitely not read that from the data. I don’t know what percentage of current seekers post in the wants-to-be-hired thread, but as a potentially-outlying anecdote, I didn’t until I had already been looking for three months. I would hypothesize that there’s a psychological barrier to posting in WWTBH, even if you’ve been laid off…
Did you get anything from your "who wants to be hired" post? It's not been clear to me that it's a useful thing to do.
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#174Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It does amuse me that we're still at more people hiring than looking for jobs I would definitely not read that from the data. I don’t know what percentage of current seekers post in the wants-to-be-hired thread, but as a potentially-outlying anecdote, I didn’t until I had already been looking for three months. I would hypothesize that there’s a psychological barrier to posting in WWTBH, even if you’ve been laid off…
I've definitely resisted posting in the past. The primary reason was I simply didn't want to post while I had a job. The second is that you can't delete old HN comments, and I don't feel like having an "I need a job" comment on my permanent record. I'm not opposed to posting, but I haven't felt the desire to post.
But you're only deleting them on HN. Both the major job threads are heavily scraped and your profile goes all over the internet.
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#175Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, I don't really subscribe to this seemingly ever-expanding definition of "Baby Boomers." It was supposed to be babies born in the euphoria right after WWII, but now extends for 20 years. The ever-expanding "millennials" label is even more absurd. It originally meant people graduating college around 2000: a very specific group. Now, again, it has blown up to include decades of people. After Boomers, all the label…
> It originally meant people graduating college around 2000: This is not how generational cohorts work. AFAIK, what counts as a generation can refer to people born over from 10, and up to 33 year period depending on who you ask. "Millennial" is not precise term, it simply refers to people younger than Gen X and older than Gen Z.
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#176Here is a chart going back to 2014: https://slight.run/graphs/colman/ratio_of_seekers_to_hirers_... Not quite as drastic as yours, but still not ideal. The underlying query and data source: https://slight.run/apps/colman/job_seekers_vs_job_hiring_hac... I'm restricting to top-level comments here, because those seem like a better proxy than all comments (excluding some discussion on a given post for example).
Looks like your chart only goes up to 2022 October? Whereas OP's goes up to today.
They claim they update it daily (https://console.cloud.google.com/marketplace/details/y-combi...) but they only update it every few months it would appear.
Of course you can manually get this data from the HN API and create a query built on https://slight.run/apps/colman/job_seekers_vs_job_hiring_hac... by adding the extra few rows manually (but unlike OP, I recommend you exclude non-top level comments).
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#177Earlier quoted context omitted.
Looks like your chart only goes up to 2022 October? Whereas OP's goes up to today.
It includes the Nov 1 post, you can see the data here: https://slight.run/apps/colman/job_seekers_vs_job_hiring_hac... (Vega reads 2022-11-01 into your local timezone, hence why you're possibly seeing 2022-10-31). They claim they update it daily ( https://console.cloud.google.com/marketplace/details/y-combi... ) but they only update it every few months it would appear. Of course you can manually get this data from th…
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#178There’s an odd dynamic in the market right now. In addition to layoffs, people who are subject to RTO are trying to find jobs at remote employers, so there’s an abnormally high number of already-employed folks on the job hunt right now. Not to mention all the juniors having trouble finding work at the moment. Meanwhile remote employers are seeing less employee turnover, so don’t need to do much hiring, especially sin…
I still see plenty of remote jobs to apply for on LinkedIn, but I have noticed that there are a lot more applicants now. A few months back it would often be single digit numbers of applicants. Now it will often be well into the double digits of applicants.
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#179Very interesting chart, thanks! One comment, is that it is probably more a measure of "which way is the balance of power tilting" than it is "what is the actual ratio". Many employers who could not find anyone would post the job everywhere they could think of, while people looking just read the "who is hiring" posts and then applied to the employer rather than post in the "who wants to be hired". Now the shoe is on t…
Can a once trendy tech company like Birds scooter (stock at 22 cents down -98%) really be considered to have the upper hand? I think if you're a FAANG employer that is considered "safe" definitely yes, but there's a pile of zombie companies that have been wrecked by end of ZIRP and have a hard time understanding how they retain or hire anyone.
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#180Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can confirm. My WWTBH comment from yesterday shows me a delete link, as well as a non-expiring edit link.
The delete button is time-limited. I think it's about 24~36 hours. After that, you can't delete without emailing the mods.