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Something I learned too late is that sometimes a place is cheap because of horrible neighbours.
More generally, cheap areas often means economic underdevelopment or decline, which leads to social problems and annoying neighbors (on account of drinking, unemployment and other issues). On the plus side, there's less traffic, because people aren't as busy going to places to make and spend money as they are in economically vibrant areas.
What broke Sweden? Real estate bust exposes big divide
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> still gets rejected either for her financial situation or because the rental contract is already set to increase 8% each year - which we simply cannot afford. And it's not just Munich. Every city in Germany has this problem. The logical step, when individuals cannot afford their own rent, companies that need workers will be providing housing to their workers. And they will be able to evict them whenever they feel l…
This case is different though, 75k is a very, very good salary in Germany so if they can't find rent with that then they are looking at the wrong properties. 75k is great but it won't buy luxury penthouses (same as everywhere else in the world.) If OP is telling me they can't find a normal 2 bed apartment in Munich on a 100k (assuming) income something is wrong in their search or their expectations.
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That assumes that the entities buying the housing are subject to death, disease, and divorce. From 2022: Investors bought a record share of homes in 2021. See where. - https://wapo.st/3ZDSZqm Strong Towns from 2022: Corporate Investors Own Nearly Half of This City's Residential Property - https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2022/5/25/corporate-inve...
Damn, I did not expect that city to be Newark .
Re: What broke Sweden? Real estate bust exposes big divide
#534I'm in the highest percentiles of income in Sweden (public data is available) and it doesn't matter. It's basically impossible for me to afford a house / apartment for my family in the best neighborhoods. What's the point? What is the point of trying to be a high performer if wealth can't be acquired by income? Why would I want to work for anyone in this country? Only way out is equity and that game is even harder to…
Why waste the money and effort to buy something in the "best" neighborhood? Status symbol? Who cares. For the investment? It doesn't seem like you can afford it, nor need it. Just buy someplace you can afford and make a nice home for your family. If there is a genuine reason why that neighborhood is the best for you and yours, then ofcourse that is a different matter.
Outside the city center neighborhoods are essentially dorms.
Re: What broke Sweden? Real estate bust exposes big divide
#535I'm in the highest percentiles of income in Sweden (public data is available) and it doesn't matter. It's basically impossible for me to afford a house / apartment for my family in the best neighborhoods. What's the point? What is the point of trying to be a high performer if wealth can't be acquired by income? Why would I want to work for anyone in this country? Only way out is equity and that game is even harder to…
This is the thing I'm always fascinated by in these stories - the complete lack of understanding for why not everyone can have everything in a particular place with finite resources. > I'm in the highest percentiles of income in Sweden Which one is it then? 80th? 90th? 99th? 99.5th? > It's basically impossible for me to afford a house / apartment for my family in the best neighborhoods. Which are the "best neighborho…
So the problem is not "income". It's other sorts of privilegies I don't have.
For example "time in the real estate market pre 2010".
Income != Wealth
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then just about any solution How can you make such a claim, when you look at the state of many regions/countries in the world?
11.6% of Americans live in poverty.
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#537It seems like it's the same story everywhere I look. Housing is the main driver of inequality and there is little change happening. We have the same problem here in Germany. I am currently living in Munich to finish my CS Master's at TUM and build a startup, and it is absolutely impossible to find anything remotely affordable. I am supported by two startup scholarships and make enough to get by, but no landlord even…
By "driving", you mean "helps create inequality", right? But inequality is already there. Someone now pays that high rent already; otherwise, landlords would lower prices to avoid empty units. You are competing with many people from all parts of the EU and, to an extent, the world for the same limited resource. Someone who built their startup and banked on it already came to Germany to work and live there because it…
Plovdiv is 1000x better than Sofia in any conceivable way. Older, cleaner, cultured. Built on top of an ancient Roman city. It's by far the best big place in Bulgaria
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Sure, but try dating and building social circles while living in rural areas as a single 20-30 something year old. Of course young people want to live in dense walkable areas where it's easy to find other like minded people. Isn't Swedish population also statistically one of the biggest sufferers of loneliness in the world and also one of the largest consumers of antidepressants? Or was that Finland? I'm not sure.
I grew up in a village in the mountains where the closest neighbors were 500m away. At age 14, just before moving, I counted half a dozen attractive females of the same age (plus minus 1 year) in the village, that means 2-3 km away but still very much in reach on foot or by bicycle. I have most of my extended family there and there was no problem dating, marrying and having long term relations. There is a small town…
You are completely moving the goalposts. Read my comment again please. I was talking about the dating market of twenty and thirty year olds, not that of school teenagers. How's the dating scene of single twenty to thirty year olds in your village?
All that demographic has moved to big cities to go to universities and become skilled professionals. What's left in villages is older people and children.
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>If eastern Germany is still affordable like that then it might be for a reason. I'm not German, but you can't complain there's no affordable housing when there actually is, but you just don't want it. Just because you only want to move only to a specific city you like, that has the "right vibe", where others also want to live, it's not society's fault you're too picky and you think you're too good for other more aff…
"I'm not German" "Plenty of foreigners who don't "pass as German" live in East German cities just fine. " Are you one among those non germans living in a eastern german city, or know some of them personally? If no, how can you judge then? I am german and I happen to live in eastern germany and I can attest there is a very high level of anti immigration sentiment and action. There are some bubbles in the bigger cites,…
How does this look like? I was a foreigner in east Germany and never experienced any hate directed towards me because I'm different.
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More than university graduates like OP?
Sure, why not. It's a hard, unpleasant work that is absolutely vital. It's a travesty how underpaid and underappreciated these people are
So I am all for paying them all more and for example the executive of the german train (who had his company have a shitty year in the reds, but still effectivly doubling his salary) less.
Suggestions on how to actually change it?
Most approaches I know where people go to the top to change things kind of fail, - once they are at the top, they rather enjoy the benefits there. Whether they are socialists or free market radicals.