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Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by csomar »

SanderNL wrote: post #220
cft wrote: post #202

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I'm an American that have been living in Europe for 15 months. My perspective is that Europe is ruled by old aristocracy that is happy with the way the life is. They're very afraid of any change, especially of giving people something constructive to do on a large scale. Another reason might be that Europe went through the two World wars, and therefore they're generally scared of any change.

I have a unpopular opinion about this, but IMO it is the population that causes this. Vast swaths of Europe are rural especially in the south. Very, very averse to any kind of change. I'm in the Netherlands as you can tell and 'even' we are not that much more progressive. There is currently a massive farmer uprising and everybody is complaining literally non-stop about just about everything. Meanwhile nobody has even…

Maybe because you are suggesting removing these people's job without giving them an alternative first.

Also, reverse the tables: If someone comes suggesting to you to ban computers and the Internet completely and pull a study out (Internet damages brain). Would you be happy, offended, indifferent... okay I hope you get the point.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by DDiran »

As an Italian national who grew up in Italy and left as soon as I could to work abroad, I feel I'm in a pretty good position to make the following statements:

1. I've never seen the Italian government move so quickly on anything 2. Now that they have, they've done so for something extremely stupid 3. They haven't exactly halted AI development. They've just widened the productivity gap between Italy and the rest of the world. And Italy wasn't exactly a beaming light of economic productivity beforehand. 4. Within Italy, tech savvy people will just use VPNs. Most people aren't tech savvy though, so you're widening the gap even further within your own borders.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by wkat4242 »

prenoob wrote: post #82

Writing from rome, italy. These bureaucrats only pretend to work. The number of privacy violations in italy is staggering, i have to take 10 calls a day from power companies because they have access to all the phone number of anybody who has a gas or energy contract. I had to change phone numbers. Meanwhile they are going against a service that as far as i know does not even require your name to serve you.

Same in Spain. I get calls every day from energy companies pretending to be my own provider and having lots of data on me like my name and contact numbers.

Privacy is so broken here.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by amai »

I believe the italian regulators are completely right on this.

But of course they should have banned Windows 10/11, Office 365, MS Teams, basically any Microsoft product first. But the law in the EU seems to apply only for small companies. Big companies like MS, Amazon, Facebook etc. can do whatever they want.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by illiarian »

ETH_start wrote: post #580
illiarian wrote: post #370

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Please show me which part of GDPR mandates that banner. As additional homework, you can also lookup malicious compliance etc. Or even the sibling discussion on how Facebook wants you to apply for a permission to opt out of their tracking: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35383925

The banners proliferated after GDPR was instituted. Privacy should have been promoted through technological means, e.g the EU could have funded development of fingerprintless browser technologies, zero-knowledge proof based identity verification, etc, instead of through bureaucratic regimentation of private interaction.

Same to you: Please show me which part of GDPR mandates that banner. Also, where the GDPR talks about browsers or cookies or gingerprints.

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Post by ithkuil »

ElemenoPicuares wrote: post #591
ithkuil wrote: post #527

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These phone calls are absolutely a nightmare. My phone filters out at least 2-3 automatically filtered calls a day and yet a few slip through the cracks. These companies are using the old phone infrastructure that on paper could be traced without problems. Yet nothing, they operate with impunity

In the US, many people I know have been periodically inundated with scam robocalls... in Mandarin! They spoof a number very close to your own which is a dead giveaway in a larger metropolitan area but probably pretty effective in rural areas with fewer local numbers. The novelty wore off after like the 10th "Nĭhǎo..."

The interesting thing is that in Italy in most of these spam phone calls there is actually a human speaking (often but not always with a slight Albanian accent)

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Post by hcks »

croes wrote: post #454
prenoob wrote: post #82

Writing from rome, italy. These bureaucrats only pretend to work. The number of privacy violations in italy is staggering, i have to take 10 calls a day from power companies because they have access to all the phone number of anybody who has a gas or energy contract. I had to change phone numbers. Meanwhile they are going against a service that as far as i know does not even require your name to serve you.

They don't need your name, they fingerprint your browser when necessary.

Please tell us more about OpenAI fingerprinting browsers when they currently serve 0 ad

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by ildon »

I can't wait for them to challenge the decision in court. The only rather strong point made by the authority is that they don't do anything to actually check that minors of age 13 can't use the service.

Apart from that, they would have a very good argument against most of the claims of the authority based on freedom of speech and information. They're essentially in the business of providing information

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