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Do you think that the stated motivation for banning chatGPT is just a veil?
It's BigVPN pulling the strings in the background. \s
Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT
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Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT
#442I really don't get this kind of bans. When I connect to a service in the US, my bits are traveling there. Italy "banning" ChatGPT (whatever it means) is like preventing me from getting high in Amsterdam because, as an Italian citizen, I should not be allowed to.. Never got it, and never will.
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It's not extraterritorial. If an international company wants to sell goods or services in a country, it must abide by the country's laws.
Nope. If I want to sell data in the EU, I can. I'm not subject to their laws unless I have a presence there. GDPR tries to change that. See https://www2.deloitte.com/ch/en/pages/risk/articles/gdpr-ext...
Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT
#444While this is obviously a dumb move, there are 2 upsides for Italy: - Italy, like the rest of south europe is hobbled by an army of bureaucrats doing busywork and their jobs are the first to be threatened by an AI speaking fluent Italian. So it helps them to keep unemployment from getting even higher - It's an opportunity for an Italian company to create a model and grow in this window of opportunity. Italy has great…
>It's an opportunity for an Italian company to create a model and grow in this window of opportunity. Italy has great engineers Is it? It is probably impossible to find enough data to train an LLM without accidentally including at least one piece of PII. Even manage it, how would you ever prove it?
Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT
#445While this is obviously a dumb move, there are 2 upsides for Italy: - Italy, like the rest of south europe is hobbled by an army of bureaucrats doing busywork and their jobs are the first to be threatened by an AI speaking fluent Italian. So it helps them to keep unemployment from getting even higher - It's an opportunity for an Italian company to create a model and grow in this window of opportunity. Italy has great…
>It's an opportunity for an Italian company to create a model and grow in this window of opportunity. Italy has great engineers Is it? It is probably impossible to find enough data to train an LLM without accidentally including at least one piece of PII. Even manage it, how would you ever prove it?
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Incidentally, immediately after reading the comments here I went to Ars and saw this, which when you read it fits perfectly : https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/03/these-angry-dutc... Just one sample quote, but it's worth reading it all: > The dispute over nitrogen permits has put Microsoft’s data center developments in direct opposition to an increasingly powerful farming community. Earlier this month, a new p…
> “Of course, we need some data centers,” he says. But he wants us to talk about restructuring the way the Internet works so they are not so necessary. I'm waiting for them to suggest it should be moved to the cloud rather than put in data centres. This is a symptom of widespread technological illiteracy, globally (at least in the west)
> Ruiter says he’s continued to talk about data centers because he wants to remind people that “the cloud” they’ve come to rely on isn’t just an ethereal concept—it’s something that has a physical manifestation, here in the farmland of North Holland. He worries that growing demand for data storage from people, and also, increasingly, AI, will just mean more and more hyperscale facilities.
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#447Earlier quoted context omitted.
>It's an opportunity for an Italian company to create a model and grow in this window of opportunity. Italy has great engineers Is it? It is probably impossible to find enough data to train an LLM without accidentally including at least one piece of PII. Even manage it, how would you ever prove it?
How many Italian companies could actually afford the training?
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Singapore has to be one of the worst places to live. I don't care how 'nice' their society might seem, their overstep is too steep by far. "Custom officers can subject travellers to a drug screening test at the point of entry to Singapore. If you test positive for drugs, you can be arrested and prosecuted, even if the drugs were consumed prior to your arrival in the country." That's insanity.
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I have a unpopular opinion about this, but IMO it is the population that causes this. Vast swaths of Europe are rural especially in the south. Very, very averse to any kind of change. I'm in the Netherlands as you can tell and 'even' we are not that much more progressive. There is currently a massive farmer uprising and everybody is complaining literally non-stop about just about everything. Meanwhile nobody has even…
"Nobody has even tried GPT" is as meaningless as possible. Not sure if this is satire, but exactly this is a kind of cargo-culting. 99% of persons are better off not "trying ChatGPT". Your country is very lucky to have its own high-quality farmland and the culture around it. The food there is of such a quality that "countries with like 5000% more arable land" will never have a chance at of having. See the US, for all…
I am European, and I just proved it by complaining about complainers :)
Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT
#450While this is obviously a dumb move, there are 2 upsides for Italy: - Italy, like the rest of south europe is hobbled by an army of bureaucrats doing busywork and their jobs are the first to be threatened by an AI speaking fluent Italian. So it helps them to keep unemployment from getting even higher - It's an opportunity for an Italian company to create a model and grow in this window of opportunity. Italy has great…