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Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by Veen »

Zurrrrr wrote: post #141
nemo44x wrote: post #120

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> Reportedly some of the happiest people on earth They seem pretty far from the Scandinavian countries. Besides, I'd find it hard to trust any results from a totalitarian country. > It sounds insane to you because you’re used to the filth we live in and don’t even see the decay that’s all around us anymore. Crime and violence are normal in our world and a government that won’t tolerate it is a foreign concept. There…

Singapore is a parliamentary democracy with elected members of parliament and president. It is certainly not a "totalitarian country", although it could be considered authoritarian compared to western democracies.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by bonzini »

ahepp wrote: post #419
gpgn wrote: post #189

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What pisses me off is that some legitimate websites like project goutenberg are all blocked by my Internet provider in Italy and I have to go through a VPN to access them. Same for scribd, vdoc, libgen and so on.

why is Gutenberg blocked?

There was an accusation of copyright violation a few years ago, nowadays it's visible.

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Post by layer8 »

ahepp wrote: post #419
gpgn wrote: post #189

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What pisses me off is that some legitimate websites like project goutenberg are all blocked by my Internet provider in Italy and I have to go through a VPN to access them. Same for scribd, vdoc, libgen and so on.

why is Gutenberg blocked?

Alleged copyright infringement: https://torrentfreak.com/project-gutenberg-public-domain-lib...

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Post by brabel »

Etherlord87 wrote: post #326
davidktr wrote: post #268

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Also from Germany: I have. Please don't assume something does not happen because it doesn't happen to you.

He didn't assume that, though, just reported his situation. From Poland: I have two numbers - one I use for various services, and it's constantly bombarded with spam (multiple calls a day), one I only use to contact family members, sometimes some small companies like when ordering firewood - got two phonecalls from an unknown number within a couple days (and I didn't care to answer), and that's it for almost a year n…

Sweden here.

I do the same thing. One phone number is just unusable and I don't answer any calls anymore, mostly UK callers recruiting, or other random spam.

The other, which I don't give to almost anyone except close friends/family, gets no spam. Not sure where my first phone number ended up to become spam target, but I remember I got a call once, when that was really uncommon, which an offer to change insurance companies... I was pissed off with my previous company so I actually did it, and it actually worked well, it was not malicious... but since then I think I was added to a list of "spam-friendly idiot" or something.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by seydor »

While this is obviously a dumb move, there are 2 upsides for Italy:

- Italy, like the rest of south europe is hobbled by an army of bureaucrats doing busywork and their jobs are the first to be threatened by an AI speaking fluent Italian. So it helps them to keep unemployment from getting even higher

- It's an opportunity for an Italian company to create a model and grow in this window of opportunity. Italy has great engineers

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Post by sebzim4500 »

seydor wrote: post #435

While this is obviously a dumb move, there are 2 upsides for Italy: - Italy, like the rest of south europe is hobbled by an army of bureaucrats doing busywork and their jobs are the first to be threatened by an AI speaking fluent Italian. So it helps them to keep unemployment from getting even higher - It's an opportunity for an Italian company to create a model and grow in this window of opportunity. Italy has great…

>It's an opportunity for an Italian company to create a model and grow in this window of opportunity. Italy has great engineers

Is it? It is probably impossible to find enough data to train an LLM without accidentally including at least one piece of PII. Even manage it, how would you ever prove it?

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Post by cambaceres »

fofoz wrote: post #109
prenoob wrote: post #82

Writing from rome, italy. These bureaucrats only pretend to work. The number of privacy violations in italy is staggering, i have to take 10 calls a day from power companies because they have access to all the phone number of anybody who has a gas or energy contract. I had to change phone numbers. Meanwhile they are going against a service that as far as i know does not even require your name to serve you.

I am also writing from Italy. In the last few months I have received so many spam calls from UK numbers that I have been forced to ban the whole of Britain from my phone. Good job Data Protection authority.

Report from Sweden, I'm receiving multiple spam calls per week from UK. WTF is up with this?

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Post by stametseater »

Zurrrrr wrote: post #393
aydyn wrote: post #312

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Singapore is totalitarian? needs to be on a human rights list? Is one of the worst places to live? whats with this reddit-tier hyperbole? These comments are seriously out of touch, it comes off as trolling.

I'm not trolling. Just because it might be a very pleasant place to live doesn't mean it isn't also totalitarian. They charge people coming into their country if they have weed in their system (or their law allows them to and it seems they enforce it enough that countries warn their citizens), breaking no law in their country, and quite likely adhering to the law in their country of origin. They make suicide illegal…

> breaking no law in their country

Singaporean law forbids their citizens and residents from using drugs in other countries. So if a Singapore resident goes to Amsterdam or Portland and smokes a joint there, they are complying with local laws but still breaking Singaporean laws. Laws with this sort of extraterritorial jurisdiction aren't without precedent. Particularly, other countries, like the US, UK and many others, have similar laws concerning some forms of sex tourism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraterritorial_jurisdiction

> Just because it might be a very pleasant place to live doesn't mean it isn't also totalitarian.

With that I agree, but I think a better word to describe Singapore is 'authoritarian.' Totalitarianism is an extreme form of authoritarianism, in which the government exercises a near total control over every aspect of your life. Singapore regulates many aspects of their citizens lives, as do all functional governments to at least some degree, but I think it falls short of totalitarianism.

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Post by layer8 »

emporas wrote: post #246
martin_a wrote: post #26

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By indexing and training on everything it can find in the internet?! To explain this further: OpenAI et al. (as commercial products) are being trained on content that is published under licenses that allow non-commercial use only. Do those systems respect these licenses? It doesn't look like that. "AI companies" need to stick to laws but as nobody is able to look inside their blackboxes, we can't make sure they follo…

They don't copy and reproduce the data. They change it sufficiently for the licence to have any say. Fair use it's called.

Fair Use is a US-specific notion and doesn’t exist in that form in most other countries.
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