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Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by br1brown »

revelio wrote: post #173
br1brown wrote: post #156

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it may have been resolved, but while making the account I - Italian - did not give consent to the dissemination of MY data, and that is not in accordance with the GDPR now I am not saying that they have to stop making use of my data, but at least notify me how and where my of phone is being used?

They do notify you and explain it: https://help.openai.com/en/articles/6613520-phone-verificati... This is also covered under the "consent" lawful basis part of the GDPR. The bug is not a problem. GDPR covers data leaks. If you're an EU company you have to inform your DPA within 72 hours, and the users affected. It's not illegal to have such breaches. OpenAI isn't an EU company so doesn't have a DPA, but it did notif…

yes ok, for the law though there had to be my assent communicated by active action because I could decide that I don't want it to be used for the purposes listed in that article and consequently not get the account

I still don't find the guarantor's request unimpeachable

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by zaroth »

lm28469 wrote: post #74
slowmotiony wrote: post #36

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If they're in violation of EU privacy laws then how are they not fined for it or outright banned? I got a fine from the local court in Germany because I put a google maps widget on my company's "about us" page, the court gave me 30 days to remove it.

Can you show us the exact document you received ? I very much doubt it happened the way you describe it, you're probably omitting very important details

I’d believe it. Apparently you can’t use any 3rd party service that might expose merely an IP address thru a network request directly from the client. A map widget would do that.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by th17row »

nemo44x wrote: post #120
Zurrrrr wrote: post #87

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Singapore has to be one of the worst places to live. I don't care how 'nice' their society might seem, their overstep is too steep by far. "Custom officers can subject travellers to a drug screening test at the point of entry to Singapore. If you test positive for drugs, you can be arrested and prosecuted, even if the drugs were consumed prior to your arrival in the country." That's insanity.

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Nice authoritarian dystopia bro...

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by mike_hearn »

thefz wrote: post #153
chatmasta wrote: post #116

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It's authoritarian to prevent their citizens from using a tool that makes them more productive and gives them a way to explore a new technology. Imagine if Italy banned Google searches in 2002. Actually, China did that and we rightfully called them authoritarian then, just like we should call Italy authoritarian now.

Nope, it's enforcing an EU directive. Read up GDPR. Italy is actually trying to protect its citizens.

China claims its firewall is about protecting its citizens too. How is it different?

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by Zurrrrr »

nemo44x wrote: post #158
Zurrrrr wrote: post #141

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> Reportedly some of the happiest people on earth They seem pretty far from the Scandinavian countries. Besides, I'd find it hard to trust any results from a totalitarian country. > It sounds insane to you because you’re used to the filth we live in and don’t even see the decay that’s all around us anymore. Crime and violence are normal in our world and a government that won’t tolerate it is a foreign concept. There…

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> Other ways of measuring “happiness” are bullshit as cultures are different. Suicide is a great metric for happiness.

Suicide rate doesn't measure anything except suicide rate. The happiness index and other studies are very thorough in what they measure, and choose things common to all cultures.

Bizarre to be defending a totalitarian regime because you have no crime. I guess you really think the means justify the ends, maybe because you don't realize the level of compromise.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by SanderNL »

bjornsing wrote: post #154
SanderNL wrote: post #112

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And I get it and usually agree. Some things are dangerous, like toxic materials I don't know about and cannot know about. I expect some agency to protect me, because in this domain I am too stupid. Oh wait.. the whole world is not a developer. I can definitely see how some people need protection here. Even developers are inputting sensitive code and info about their work. Weird times.

The difference is that no reasonable person wants to eat poison, but it’s completely rational to want to use OpenAI’s models on the terms they are offered.

True, but my point was directed towards toxins I cannot know about. Chemicals added to food and medicines and such. There is loads I - as a layperson - cannot know about safety. My guess is the same is true for "internet stuff". Something we are intimitately aware of, but we are a minority (and we still mess up).

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by Zurrrrr »

vincnetas wrote: post #174
nemo44x wrote: post #158

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Had to read about suicides in Singapore. I could not believe this, but apparently suicides were ILEGAL in Singapore until recently : Suicide was decriminalised in Singapore with the passing of the Criminal Law Reform Bill on 6 May 2019. Before that, Section 309 of the Penal Code stated that "Whoever attempts to commit suicide, and does any act towards the commission of such offence, shall be punished with imprisonmen…

Honestly Singapore belongs on some human rights watch lists or something.

That's deplorable.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by gpgn »

prenoob wrote: post #82

Writing from rome, italy. These bureaucrats only pretend to work. The number of privacy violations in italy is staggering, i have to take 10 calls a day from power companies because they have access to all the phone number of anybody who has a gas or energy contract. I had to change phone numbers. Meanwhile they are going against a service that as far as i know does not even require your name to serve you.

What pisses me off is that some legitimate websites like project goutenberg are all blocked by my Internet provider in Italy and I have to go through a VPN to access them. Same for scribd, vdoc, libgen and so on.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by kps »

realce wrote: post #172
sorokod wrote: post #155

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Do you see the qualitative difference between all of the following that can cause harm: * a box of matches * a handgun * an assault rifle * a 50 cal BMG * an ICBM with nuclear MIRV Saying that X has a property similar to the one Y has while ignoring the magnitude of the difference is silly.

So which of these represents the chatbot?

The matches, I assume. The others do damage at a specific small target point, whereas a box of matches can destroy a neighbourhood.

[Edit: the ICBM was edited into the comment after the fact.]

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