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Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by ztracf »

baxtr wrote: post #41

Saying this as a European: Whenever I visit Italy, I love the food, I love the people, I love the weather and the beaches. However, I often sense that in many places, the country seems to be entrenched in its medieval past. This decision will not accelerate Italy's progress towards a more prosperous future.

Italy pops up quite frequently when reading about expensive specialist machinery like industrial robots or pipe laying ships.

In other words, it produces real things apart from food.

This is a great privacy initiative that will help Europeans focus further on things that actually matter as opposed to data mining.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by chatmasta »

0xferruccio wrote: post #8

Crazy to see how fast all of this is evolving. Honestly the downside of explosive growth is that all of a sudden you need to ramp up resources to deal with these sort of legal T&C issues. It makes sense that now that they're huge they need to operate as a more mature company. They'll hire some expensive lawyers and enable Facebook style age verification on sign up and they'll get away from this one. But I'm sure they…

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Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by nickpp »

jprete wrote: post #28
favsq wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In what way does ChatGPT behave like they own the world?

They use every bit of data they can find without regard to the rights of the authors, publishers, or subjects of the data?

Data wants to be free.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by lm28469 »

slowmotiony wrote: post #36
jprete wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The GDPR has extensive requirements that can't be met by ChatGPT because it's training on public data sources everywhere.

If they're in violation of EU privacy laws then how are they not fined for it or outright banned? I got a fine from the local court in Germany because I put a google maps widget on my company's "about us" page, the court gave me 30 days to remove it.

Can you show us the exact document you received ?

I very much doubt it happened the way you describe it, you're probably omitting very important details

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by SanderNL »

weberer wrote: post #66
baxtr wrote: post #41

Saying this as a European: Whenever I visit Italy, I love the food, I love the people, I love the weather and the beaches. However, I often sense that in many places, the country seems to be entrenched in its medieval past. This decision will not accelerate Italy's progress towards a more prosperous future.

They're not banning it just because its AI. They're banning it because it sends sensitive data to Microsoft without the user's consent.

The user is doing it. They are literally typing it. They are consenting to this. We don't need "watchdogs" "protecting" us from stuff we want to do ourselves.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by isp »

Good summary: https://www.politico.eu/article/italian-privacy-regulator-ba...

The key issue under GDPR seems to be that OpenAI:

> lacks a legal basis justifying "the mass collection and storage of personal data ... to 'train' the algorithms" of ChatGPT"

My reading: OpenAI could comply with this by modifying ChatGPT to give users protected by GDPR a clear choice to opt-in vs opt-out on their chats being used as future OpenAI training data.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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martin_a wrote: post #26
favsq wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In what way does ChatGPT behave like they own the world?

By indexing and training on everything it can find in the internet?! To explain this further: OpenAI et al. (as commercial products) are being trained on content that is published under licenses that allow non-commercial use only. Do those systems respect these licenses? It doesn't look like that. "AI companies" need to stick to laws but as nobody is able to look inside their blackboxes, we can't make sure they follo…

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Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by bjornsing »

baxtr wrote: post #41

Saying this as a European: Whenever I visit Italy, I love the food, I love the people, I love the weather and the beaches. However, I often sense that in many places, the country seems to be entrenched in its medieval past. This decision will not accelerate Italy's progress towards a more prosperous future.

Over the last few decades Europe has solidified its position in the world’s museum. Italy has a leading position in this development.

Satire aside, the priority in Europe is not a prosperous future — it’s social stability.

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