Interesting. I heard many good things about Pycharm, but it kind of looks bloated? How does it compare to VS Code (which is quite good (notebook and repl support mostly), but not great, in particular regarding the debugging experience)?
PyCharm 2023.1
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#22The new UI looks a bit like Visual Studio Code, I think?
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#23Will JetBrains IDEs survive VSCode + GPT plugins combo?
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PyCharm has a great debugger. I am a longtime Pycharm user and have used VScode from time to time for python, and it seems like only now VSCode is catching up. Pycharm is still better though in the general language support department. However I feel that if you were already a VSCode user, VSCode has become good enough. Pycharm like other IntelliJ based IDEs has many other QoL features which I can't find anywhere else…
For me, it comes down to the cohesiveness of the whole thing. VSCode plugins often feel janky.
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#26Still a knights battle helmet when it comes to looking on text. Transparent Modal background to the text is were its at in my opinion. That and buttons on the side. One key to switch into the background. One key to switch the modes.
They seem to be experimenting with a new-look UI that has buttons on the side.
I just enabled it quickly here, and it's clearly a VS Code clone. :(
Just reverted back to the standard layout, which I'm more used to.
Hopefully they don't try and force this new layout on everyone. Otherwise, people might as well actually just swap to VS Code.
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#27Interesting. I heard many good things about Pycharm, but it kind of looks bloated? How does it compare to VS Code (which is quite good (notebook and repl support mostly), but not great, in particular regarding the debugging experience)?
For large codebases PyCharm is superior, as VS Code usually chokes in its JavaScript memory usage before PyCharm's Java. You need to load large symbol datasets in the memory and VS Code seem to be struggling with this. PyCharm autocompletion, autoimport, red underline errors and type hinting tools are also better than in VS Code. VS Code Jupyter Notebook integration as better. PyCharm tends to do very badly with comp…
+ much better git support
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#28The remote Jupyter support is very cool. Is there a managed service out there? I think my organization could benefit greatly from common Jupyter infrastructure, but the calculus changes drastically if my tiny team is on the hook for keeping it running.
https://docs.aws.amazon.com/sagemaker/latest/dg/studio-lab.h...
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#29Interesting. I heard many good things about Pycharm, but it kind of looks bloated? How does it compare to VS Code (which is quite good (notebook and repl support mostly), but not great, in particular regarding the debugging experience)?
Yes, the memory usage is higher, but spending like 50 € on an extra RAM stick to run the program I spend 70 % of my work (and often free) time in seems pretty reasonable.
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For what it's worth, as I longtime happy Jetbrains user, I like the new look. I did not feel it hindered access to any of the features I commonly used.
As another longtime user I agree. I think the JetBrains suite had always been showing far too much stuff around the editor that you would pretty much never use. The new layout keeps the stuff you actually want, while putting the extra stuff like 1 additional click away. And honestly, everything's keybound in PyCharm so if you're someone who tries to optimise your editor usage you probably weren't clicking icons anywa…