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PyCharm 2023.1

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Re: PyCharm 2023.1

#2
I hope they also worked on removing the many UI bugs from PyCharm remote: laggy scrolling while in the diff view, some editor settings like rulers at 100/120 chars not working properly, some settings panes lagging out until the editor is restarted, etc etc. I need to develop on a remote VM and I’m using VSCode at the moment because it’s remote story is less buggy, but would much rather be using PyCharm.

Re: PyCharm 2023.1

#3
> It has been created to reduce visual complexity, provide easy access to essential features, and progressively disclose complex functionality as needed – resulting in a cleaner look and feel.

I’ll probably try it out in a while, but the only thing I potentially care about of those things is ”easy access to essential features”. If clean look makes things harder to find, then that would be a sign that they don’t know their users.

But I’ll wait to judge until I’ve tried it.

Re: PyCharm 2023.1

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post #3

> It has been created to reduce visual complexity, provide easy access to essential features, and progressively disclose complex functionality as needed – resulting in a cleaner look and feel. I’ll probably try it out in a while, but the only thing I potentially care about of those things is ”easy access to essential features”. If clean look makes things harder to find, then that would be a sign that they don’t know…

For what it's worth, as I longtime happy Jetbrains user, I like the new look. I did not feel it hindered access to any of the features I commonly used.

Re: PyCharm 2023.1

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Interesting. I heard many good things about Pycharm, but it kind of looks bloated? How does it compare to VS Code (which is quite good (notebook and repl support mostly), but not great, in particular regarding the debugging experience)?

Re: PyCharm 2023.1

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Interesting. I heard many good things about Pycharm, but it kind of looks bloated? How does it compare to VS Code (which is quite good (notebook and repl support mostly), but not great, in particular regarding the debugging experience)?

PyCharm has a great debugger. I am a longtime Pycharm user and have used VScode from time to time for python, and it seems like only now VSCode is catching up.

Pycharm is still better though in the general language support department. However I feel that if you were already a VSCode user, VSCode has become good enough. Pycharm like other IntelliJ based IDEs has many other QoL features which I can't find anywhere else. But if you haven't been using them already I doubt they would seem to make a difference.

Re: PyCharm 2023.1

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> It has been created to reduce visual complexity, provide easy access to essential features, and progressively disclose complex functionality as needed – resulting in a cleaner look and feel. I’ll probably try it out in a while, but the only thing I potentially care about of those things is ”easy access to essential features”. If clean look makes things harder to find, then that would be a sign that they don’t know…

For what it's worth, as I longtime happy Jetbrains user, I like the new look. I did not feel it hindered access to any of the features I commonly used.

As another longtime user I agree. I think the JetBrains suite had always been showing far too much stuff around the editor that you would pretty much never use. The new layout keeps the stuff you actually want, while putting the extra stuff like 1 additional click away.

And honestly, everything's keybound in PyCharm so if you're someone who tries to optimise your editor usage you probably weren't clicking icons anyway.

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