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Re: Apple Music Classical

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Post by lynx23 »

biftek wrote: post #339
lynx23 wrote: post #80

192kHz/24 bit, what a wonderful piece of snakeoil... What do they actually record with this frequency, bats talking to each other about classical music?

A higher bit rate lets you digitally process audio without introducing artifacts. It's very common to record, mix, and master audio at 192/24 and even oversample well above 192k. It has nothing to do with snake oil or hearing things above 22k it's about not introducing aliasing and other digital artifacts, and on highly dynamic content like classical can definitely be heard in the audible spectrum.

I am all for 24 bit to get more dynamic range. But I am still unconvinced that anything above 48kHz makes a difference for the final consumer.

Re: Apple Music Classical

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Post by piperswe »

fckgw wrote: post #189
tzs wrote: post #111

How is Apple Music playback on Amazon Echo devices? Does Apple have anything as nice as Spotify Connect? My current setup is that I have an Echo Dot connected by the line out to my A/V receiver, with the microphone turned off. With Spotify Connect the Spotify on my computer or phone can tell the Spotify on the Dot to play a song, album, or playlist. The Spotify on the Dot then streams that music from Spotify. I can t…

This is a very niche and very specific workflow you have. Spotify is the only thing that can do what you want as far as I know. Ironically Apple used to offer a product to do this more than a decade ago, the Apple Airport Express. It's a wifi access point with a line out. You can still pick one up for ~$20 on eBay and I believe it will still work with Apple music as a target device.

Belkin also currently makes a version with AirPlay 2, which allows for syncing multiple speakers together (among other improvements): https://www.microcenter.com/product/640273/belkin-soundform-...

Re: Apple Music Classical

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Post by an_aparallel »

UncleMeat wrote: post #205
MavisBacon wrote: post #144

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I personally would love to see some AI model imitate Thelonious Monk compositions and solos. The result would probably be hysterical

You probably will be able to get imitation in the not too distant future. But a world where we just listen to imitations of 50s and 60s derivatives of bebop is a sad one. The most loved musicians are ones who are pushing things forward and don't just imitate Trane endlessly or whatever. AI would need to be able to do something like create The Bad Plus in 1995. That's an even bigger mountain to climb.

We have the tech to be licensed (melodyne or zynaptiq for the polyphonic pitch data extraction), python libs for the analysis. Just needs the brains to execute it at this point...and someone to pay for this kind of compute

Re: Apple Music Classical

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Post by pallas_athena »

I want to know how these pieces are scroobbled to last.fm

Yes, I still use it and my (flawed) choice for classical music is:

- Artist: the composer ("Ludwig van Beethoven")

- Album: difficult, usually either the whole piece ("Symphony No. 5") or a larger collection ("Symphonies")

- Track: the movement ("I. Allegro con brio")

Of course this has A LOT of issues:

- The performer is totally ignored

- The "album" categorization is

- Should the "album" include other descriptors? ("... in C minor" or "Eroica" (yes it's not the same symphony))

- Should the "track" include also the piece name?

- In which language?

Sadly a standard does not exist (afaik)

Re: Apple Music Classical

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Post by tgv »

Donckele wrote: post #213
tgv wrote: post #37

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I've used Idagio for 6 months. They have a reasonable interface, good performances and sound quality, but their catalog is indeed limited. There are hundreds of performances of the same well-known works, but there's not (very) much beyond it. I've discovered about 100 fairly unknown composers through YouTube that I consider quite good, but many of them are missing from Idagio, or are listed with one or two works. The…

Any youtube recommendations?

Try these channels:

https://www.youtube.com/user/KuhlauDilfeng2/videos https://www.youtube.com/user/robt0007/videos https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9g5M2trqPDiGn5fC_dl63g/pla... https://www.youtube.com/user/hrSinfonieorchester https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwbbr8FKVrWLF8T81RI7Lxg/vid... https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPfJe8fU94SE8CjtKOf-zxQ https://www.youtube.com/user/ElbphilharmonieHH https://www.youtube.com/c/AVROTROSKlassiek

A bunch of names (with the letter A): Eugen d'Albert, Franco Alfano, Flor Alpaerts, Volkmar Andreae, Malcolm Arnold, Kurt Atterberg, Georges Auric.

Re: Apple Music Classical

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Post by wyclif »

lelag wrote: post #288
pwinnski wrote: post #235

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I can definitely see why they passed. In 2017, it was already clear that streaming options render any music-purchasing platform niche at best, and a shrinking niche at that. Sad, but true.

It's only true as long as the content owner play with it. The day the content owner stop wanting to license their catalog, the platforms die. The majors let themselves go into that trap because they failed at finding a viable digital model and the streaming platform showed them a way to keep making some money. Show them a better model that works and they will follow the money. In 2017, the classical music market was…

I have a Spotify Premium account and stream a lot of classical. Some of the things I've discovered that are different about that experience than other genres of music:

1/ It's hit or miss whether the major labels will put all their content on streaming platforms. Sure, you can find the most popular classic recordings, but more obscure stuff isn't there.

2/ A lot of classical music is still listened to on CD format, and some of the streaming stuff is clearly CD quality audio.

3/ I also scrobble all my music via Lastfm. But the problem with doing that with classical as opposed to pop formats is that so often the album art just isn't there. Apparently the company that sources the album art doesn't care about classical music.

Re: Apple Music Classical

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Post by d35007 »

prvc wrote: post #409
d35007 wrote: post #312

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I mean, there’s also no need to freak the fuck out over a minor issue in German text on a predominantly English page. Ok, so “Mondschein Sonata” isn’t exactly the same as “mondscheinsonate”, but it’s damn close and it gets the point across: Some works have different names in different languages. Guess what happens when I search Apple Classical for “mondscheinsonate”. In fact, don’t guess. Try it.

It may not be a consequential error, but it a revealing one.

What does it reveal?

Re: Apple Music Classical

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Post by wyclif »

wj wrote: post #419
nordsieck wrote: post #105

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> I suspect that purchasing music files to own will seem increasingly strange and inconvenient to younger people, though. It'll be interesting to see what happens. As a fan of blues, I've noticed that there are a lot of grey songs in my Spotify playlists. There's just no practical way to be able to listen to the music I want to hear besides owning it (Youtube is hit-or-miss as well). For people who want to listen to…

Can you recommend some blues artists that I may not know about?

Oh wow, there's just so many. Do you have Spotify? If so I can point you to some user-curated blues playlists that have a big variety.

Re: Apple Music Classical

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Post by n0tahacker »

pwinnski wrote: post #251
n0tahacker wrote: post #227

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I am a student with not a lot of money and I really love classical music. I don't have to pay for Spotify due to Spotify family. Also, I really don't like the cliché that classical music is mostly for the well-earning élite. Classical music is just great music. Totally agree with you. Like the idea of a seperate app; when I am streaming my favorite music on Spotify, it's sometimes weird to listen to some piece of con…

If your family had Apple Music Family rather than Spotify Family, you would have this option for free.

That's right. But what I really like at Spotify is that I can start a track on my iPhone, which is connected to my music box, and then add tracks to the waiting list or change them from my iPad. I really miss this option in Apple Music.

Re: Apple Music Classical

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Post by n0tahacker »

sseagull wrote: post #367
n0tahacker wrote: post #227

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I am a student with not a lot of money and I really love classical music. I don't have to pay for Spotify due to Spotify family. Also, I really don't like the cliché that classical music is mostly for the well-earning élite. Classical music is just great music. Totally agree with you. Like the idea of a seperate app; when I am streaming my favorite music on Spotify, it's sometimes weird to listen to some piece of con…

While not exactly the same, your school (college?) may have access to the Naxos library, which may allow you to stream that for free (requiring login through your school library).

I am on a german university. Will see if that's possible, thanks.
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