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Re: Apple Music Classical

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Post by BurningFrog »

bowsamic wrote: post #250
BurningFrog wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think we'll end up agreeing, but I'm curious what "deeper" ways to enjoy music than listening to it you favor?

Relating to it as a creative process. Connecting directly with the artist, mind to mind, through the art. Being liberated from my current perspective. Story telling. Revolutionary mental states. New synergistic paradigms. All the actual reasons why people have been making art for many 1000s of years. Or, just keep your pacifier, baby ;)

Thanks.

I've chosen to think of art in terms of products I consume, and less as admiration of artists, though of course I do some of the latter too.

Re: Apple Music Classical

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Post by HeavyFeather »

anecdotal1 wrote: post #177
EntrePrescott wrote: post #171

> "For example, from the formal Beethoven’s Piano Sonata No. 14 to the popular byname of Moonlight Sonata, or in multiple languages, such as Mondschein Sonata in German." "Mondschein Sonata"? WTF Apple? Not only is that factually wrong, but… that's not even German - neither as a whole, nor the "Sonata" nor the space (Deppenleerzeichen). Maybe Apple should ask someone else than Siri or a marketing intern to write text…

Apple didn't write this, the company they bought this app from did

So Apple wrote this. Worse yet, their specialists in classical music wrote this. The page is littered with Apple logos and it lives on a .Apple TLD, no need to be an apologist for 2.5 trillion dollar company.

Re: Apple Music Classical

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Post by jen20 »

throwanem wrote: post #66
float4 wrote: post #58

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> Bet $100 that all classical music ALL classical music, in just 3 years. I'm perfectly willing to put my entire net worth on the line for this one.

Be serious. No one with enough bored capital to patronize the arts is going to go to see and be seen at a performance of a synthetic symphony - or not more than once or twice, anyway, for the sake of the thing. Philharmonics need not fear for their concert halls, or not at least for this reason.

> No one with enough bored capital to patronize the arts is going to go to see and be seen at a performance of a synthetic symphony

I'd pay good money to see Antheil's "Ballet Mécanique", which requires 16 synchronized player pianos...

But yes, I'm not sure I'd be interested in whatever ChatGPT threw out.

Re: Apple Music Classical

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Post by HeavyFeather »

whalesalad wrote: post #179

The domain applemusic.apple is outstanding. It’s giving Tim Apple energy.

The best part is that it isn’t even set up: https://applemusic.apple/

This awkward press release lives at https://learn.applemusic.apple/apple-music-classical

Drop the pathname and you get a nice 404.

Re: Apple Music Classical

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Post by joenot443 »

lifefeed wrote: post #226

I would love to see something like this for jazz, which has musicians constantly moving through groups and albums as musicians and composers and writers. Like take "Take Five", one of my favorites. It was written by Paul Desmond for the Dave Brubeck Quartet, with solos by Desmond on alto sax and Joe Morello on drums. Those are all fun pieces of information that I wish I could click through to see more of. Just like c…

Learning Take Five on alto sax when I was 15 or so was part of what solidified my love for the instrument. Such a recognizable and timeless song; it's often my go-to suggestion for people unfamiliar with jazz.

Re: Apple Music Classical

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Post by lelag »

pwinnski wrote: post #235
lelag wrote: post #24

Strange feelings looking at this... This is almost exactly the product I failed to get into YC with back in 2017... All the same ideas as far as the UX goes with one main difference: the business model. I wanted to apply the Steam business model where people would actually buy album again (and not tracks a la iTunes). The issue is that while it's nice to have a UX tailored for classical, this won't likely help the cl…

I can definitely see why they passed. In 2017, it was already clear that streaming options render any music-purchasing platform niche at best, and a shrinking niche at that. Sad, but true.

It's only true as long as the content owner play with it.

The day the content owner stop wanting to license their catalog, the platforms die. The majors let themselves go into that trap because they failed at finding a viable digital model and the streaming platform showed them a way to keep making some money. Show them a better model that works and they will follow the money.

In 2017, the classical music market was shrinking but still worth half a billion a year with 50% of that still being physical sales. I'm still convinced there was a market to capture.

For classical, streaming is not an option: most content on streaming services are old (albeit often great) records from the past coming from the majors catalog (which they don't care much about). That's 4 or 5 catalog. All the independents rejected the model because they can't make any money there.

Streaming is the death of the classical recording industry. Simply. There is no money in streaming. The sad part is that the average classical music consumer has generally a lot of disposable income available but no way to spend it on a good modern product, in a way that support that industry.

I don't know much about it, but it's probably true of Jazz too.

Re: Apple Music Classical

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Post by jen20 »

MagicMoonlight wrote: post #106
johndill wrote: post #98

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I'd have to disagree. Classical music would be the LAST thing AI could do well. Hard to but technique, nuance, opinion, interpretation, style and the greatest utterances of our troubled civilization into an algorithm. Pop, dance, rap, blaalads....maybe. Classical and Jazz? Never going to happen.

Lmao, classical and jazz are the two simplest forms of music. Without any lyrics to generate its basically just generating some simple patterns in basic instruments. There’s no way you’d be able to tell.

> jazz > Without any lyrics

Have you ever heard of Ella Fitzgerald?

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