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Re: Apple Music Classical

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post #136

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> For people who want to listen to pop, they're probably fine. But anything that's even a little niche is trouble. Or that's my experience, anyhow. O what happened to the idea of the “long tail”, eh?

I guess the idea is, why would you long tail when you can Pareto Principle?

Yeah, the theory of the long tail was that the marginal cost of that old, low volume stuff was nil.

I guess the truth was that it didn’t scale.

Re: Apple Music Classical

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> applemusic.apple > not music.apple Good Lord! You had one job .

Oh it's even worse than that:

learn.APPLEmusic.APPLE/APPLE-music-classical

Three repetitions of "apple"! And the learn subdomain is meaningless. I like that they're using their .brand TLD but their URL strategy still needs some work.

Re: Apple Music Classical

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I might've been clearer I was making a joke, I suppose.

Oh. Sorry, I've heard that so many times with no hints of irony that it flew quite over my head.

No harm done. Chalk it up to appreciating the music in near perfect ignorance of its contemporary social context - I had no idea that'd been a controversial point until I went looking for why something I'd thought a harmless joke had crossed people.

Re: Apple Music Classical

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post #173

> There’s no separate subscription for Apple Music Classical. It’s included at no extra cost with all Apple Music subscriptions except the Apple Music Voice Plan. Bit of a missed opportunity here to provide a cheaper subscription just for Classical. Apple could have captured Spotify users who would be willing to pay a small premium for a nicer classical UX, but would be unwilling to take out an additional full-priced…

I think if you really care about a great classical streaming experience, that probably outranks a small extra monthly fee. I sort of doubt the category of people who care about a few extra dollars a month yet really love classical music to the point of wanting a very tailored experience exists.

Re: Apple Music Classical

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Lmao, classical and jazz are the two simplest forms of music. Without any lyrics to generate its basically just generating some simple patterns in basic instruments. There’s no way you’d be able to tell.

I personally would love to see some AI model imitate Thelonious Monk compositions and solos. The result would probably be hysterical

You probably will be able to get imitation in the not too distant future. But a world where we just listen to imitations of 50s and 60s derivatives of bebop is a sad one. The most loved musicians are ones who are pushing things forward and don't just imitate Trane endlessly or whatever.

AI would need to be able to do something like create The Bad Plus in 1995. That's an even bigger mountain to climb.

Re: Apple Music Classical

#206

This looks ok, but I can't be the only person suffering Content Fatigue. Between access to infinite music, infinite movies and TV, infinite gaming, and infinite news - and that's just leisure - I'm not sure how much time I have left for a finite life.

well good news...you can actually listen to pretty much "all" of symphonic music!

yeah there is new stuff, but when we speak of "classical music", we're really talking about long-dead people

Dvorak isn't going to be composing any new works, you can actually listen to everything Dvorak ever created and then you're "done"

Re: Apple Music Classical

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post #143

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Given the enduring niche of physical media, why would a person choose non physical media for the artwork and leaflet experience? Would there be a UI that afforded the user thumbing through stacks, sliding the carton out, admiring the art as it is opened and an artifact unsleeved to be mated to a player? I suppose something like that would be possible with NFC (with write durability improvements). The NFC holds a toke…

One of the plan was to offer a bundled experience to the labels: you sell a physical media and the customer gets a code to add the album to their streaming library so they can also consume it digitally. Edit/PS: It really feels strange arguing for an idea, I've given up on so long ago...

To think of a totally different possible trajectory of a technology is a bit like reading counterhistorical fiction. The interesting part isn’t just the assertion of something different but in considering the various second order effects.

Re: Apple Music Classical

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post #136

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> For people who want to listen to pop, they're probably fine. But anything that's even a little niche is trouble. Or that's my experience, anyhow. O what happened to the idea of the “long tail”, eh?

I guess the idea is, why would you long tail when you can Pareto Principle?

> I guess the idea is, why would you long tail when you can Pareto Principle?

IMO, that's not a great point. The music is already made - that's the hard part. It just needs to be licensed.

Maybe there are other channels that are more profitable than streaming, but I'm guessing that a lot of older/niche music is just locked away for no good reason.

At a certain point, I have to imagine that most artists would prefer their music be listened to if they aren't going to make money either way.

Re: Apple Music Classical

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well to be pedantic, "classical" isn't even a style, its a time-period

if you want to be nitpicky, this app should be called Apple Symphonic

most of the symphonic music I prefer (late 19th century) would be considered from the romantic era

i.e. I don't consider Wagner to be "classical"

like...Philip Glass is not "classical" music...but he's a symphonic composer

Re: Apple Music Classical

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It’s not that high- some music streams with higher sampling frequencies and bit depths. The main snake oil phenomenon that goes on is up sampling cd quality recordings to these levels. That doesn’t accomplish much other than confusion. Certainly the majority of systems out there are not high end enough to appreciate higher quality recordings unless they are wired headphones (a quality setup there doesn’t cost too muc…

There is no system high-end enough to allow your ears to magically hear 96kHz, or even 48kHz. Unless you’re very young with golden ears it’s extremely doubtful that you can hear a 24kHz tone. It is absolutely snake oil. https://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html is an overview by the creator of Ogg and Vorbis explaining exactly, scientifically, why these inflated sampling rates are snake oil. https://m.yo…

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