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Re: Apple Music Classical

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The banner image they have showing a collection of album covers is ≥58% Goldberg variations. I wonder how large a catalogue they have, or whether perhaps the creators of this are just big Bach boys.

There is different licensing and clearing for promotional use. For example Apple can display album art beside a song while it is playing or in a search listing under their streaming rights license, but they need to pay more to feature it in a TV ad or a promotional website.

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Strange feelings looking at this... This is almost exactly the product I failed to get into YC with back in 2017... All the same ideas as far as the UX goes with one main difference: the business model. I wanted to apply the Steam business model where people would actually buy album again (and not tracks a la iTunes). The issue is that while it's nice to have a UX tailored for classical, this won't likely help the cl…

Is the classical music industry dying?

I think people listen to classical a LOT, when watching movies.

could it be like "poetry" which is dying... but might just be off-stage doing song lyrics?

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Strange feelings looking at this... This is almost exactly the product I failed to get into YC with back in 2017... All the same ideas as far as the UX goes with one main difference: the business model. I wanted to apply the Steam business model where people would actually buy album again (and not tracks a la iTunes). The issue is that while it's nice to have a UX tailored for classical, this won't likely help the cl…

I think most classical music, by virtue of having been written along time ago and having been recorded rather well already, has no need to keep being re-recorded.

I blame the nature of digital assets for this; all we gotta do is keep copying all those files into brand new digital media and we can listen to what's been already recorded forever.

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> What benefit is there other than slightly better UX The way people (like me) listen to classical music is different from the way they listen to other kinds of music. For example, I might want to listen to Beethoven's String Quartet No. 12. This has four movements, and I want the player to play from movement 1 through movement 4 once I touch the play button. This is very different from wanting to play (say) Price Ta…

> The way people (like me) listen to classical music is different from the way they listen to other kinds of music. For example, I might want to listen to Beethoven's String Quartet No. 12. This has four movements, and I want the player to play from movement 1 through movement 4 once I touch the play button. This is very different from wanting to play (say) Price Tag by Jessie J which is one track. How is this any di…

There may be several layers of grouping, particularly for opera. There are multiple acts per opera, multiple scenes per act, and there may be multiple songs per scene. If you try and list these as a single "album" you end up with abominations like my favorite recording of Die Walküre with 53 tracks. They try and stick everything in the track name, but on mobile this sometimes hides important information behind the "...".

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I'm liking this app generally, but man, I was listening to St. Matthew Passion (~ 3 hour piece) this afternoon and the app crashed. It relaunched immediately, but started playing at the beginning. I couldn't find a play history so I could at least start at the track I left off.

Also one little fiddly bit... when I searched for SMP it lets me view all the albums, but includes a bunch of albums that include a single track from the work, which I get why they included them, but it'd be nice to sort them to the end or something. I'm usually interested in listening to an entire work.

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> That could never change. Trying to revert that situtation was my bet. The 20th century was a golden age for recorded music. Maybe there is no coming back but I don't think (or I didn't think then) that streaming services are in a very strong position in the long run: consumers like them because the current deal is that you pay a single subscription and you have access to basically all the music (a very nice proposi…

Spotify's power comes from more than its ubiquity. Pop music, the kind that charts (and the only kind labels care about), is way more commodified than TV shows. If Sony were to make a streaming service with just their music and leave Spotify/Apple Music/Amazon/etc, their artists would simply fail to chart ever again. The advantage of a single streaming service with all the songs is also much greater than one with all…

> Pop music, the kind that charts (and the only kind labels care about), is way more commodified than TV shows.

> Nobody puts Netflix on "shuffle" or lets it play random episodes based on what they've watched in the past

Not convinced. People used to watch TV the way they listened to the radio - turn it on to whatever's on and mostly ignore it. It's not the current dynamic but I don't think that's an immutable law of nature.

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Please if someone from Apple is listening: Please pay some attention to Indian music as well. I mostly only listen to Tamil songs and when Apple came out with iTunes Match or something where they analyze your library and match it to what they have in cloud, they just incorrectly matched songs with the Telugu version and ones from other languages and totally messed up my collection. And, this day and age, why should a…

Does the Apple Classical app include non-Western traditional music?

It's interesting, what even is classical music? I bet there's music that crosses boundaries, like jazz-classical or pop-classical. Are those subgenres on the app?

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It's only true as long as the content owner play with it. The day the content owner stop wanting to license their catalog, the platforms die. The majors let themselves go into that trap because they failed at finding a viable digital model and the streaming platform showed them a way to keep making some money. Show them a better model that works and they will follow the money. In 2017, the classical music market was…

I wonder if a key element is direct connections with fans. My 13-yo daughter is obsessed with classical music and her favourite performers seem to have strong YouTube presences. Outside the classical world, if you look at a site like Bandcamp, that idea seems core. The business model also seems exactly like what you are talking about, both for performers and for the site. I see a lot of very obscure, niche electronic…

I have long wanted to build a combination of: Bandcamp, GitHub, and Steam for musicians.

Basically, a platform for musicians to produce music (and associated videos, artworks, etc), managing their assets securely, sharing and collaborating; then engagement with fans, promotion, merch, and touring support; and finally a simple platform for sales (streaming, downloads, and physical good) where the store takes a reasonable fee, but the bulk of the revenue goes to the creator.

I was kinda hoping Bandcamp would evolve in this direction, but I think that's not likely now.

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> I still buy albums (mostly from prestomusic, in case someone wants to know) I buy my classical music from Presto Music, too. The purchase process is easy, and maybe the performers get a bit more than from streaming. I suspect that purchasing music files to own will seem increasingly strange and inconvenient to younger people, though.

> I suspect that purchasing music files to own will seem increasingly strange and inconvenient to younger people, though. It'll be interesting to see what happens. As a fan of blues, I've noticed that there are a lot of grey songs in my Spotify playlists. There's just no practical way to be able to listen to the music I want to hear besides owning it (Youtube is hit-or-miss as well). For people who want to listen to…

Can you recommend some blues artists that I may not know about?

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I would love to see something like this for jazz, which has musicians constantly moving through groups and albums as musicians and composers and writers. Like take "Take Five", one of my favorites. It was written by Paul Desmond for the Dave Brubeck Quartet, with solos by Desmond on alto sax and Joe Morello on drums. Those are all fun pieces of information that I wish I could click through to see more of. Just like c…

Check out roon + quboz and/or tidal -- that's the audiophile route. Roon is just meta-data and presentation. Quboz/Tidal hold the content. Roon's content and interface is fantastic compared to spotify and apple music. It uses third party content (wikipedia, reviews from tivo, maybe others) seemlessly. And it elevates the use of the album art. Also, it allows for album-centric approach to viewing/organizing/listening…

>Tidal MQA crap

>audiophile

Pick one

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