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Re: Apple Music Classical

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Please if someone from Apple is listening: Please pay some attention to Indian music as well. I mostly only listen to Tamil songs and when Apple came out with iTunes Match or something where they analyze your library and match it to what they have in cloud, they just incorrectly matched songs with the Telugu version and ones from other languages and totally messed up my collection. And, this day and age, why should all Indian music be clubbed under "Foreign" genre by default?

Re: Apple Music Classical

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Apple didn't write this, the company they bought this app from did

So Apple wrote this. Worse yet, their specialists in classical music wrote this. The page is littered with Apple logos and it lives on a .Apple TLD, no need to be an apologist for 2.5 trillion dollar company.

I mean, there’s also no need to freak the fuck out over a minor issue in German text on a predominantly English page. Ok, so “Mondschein Sonata” isn’t exactly the same as “mondscheinsonate”, but it’s damn close and it gets the point across: Some works have different names in different languages.

Guess what happens when I search Apple Classical for “mondscheinsonate”. In fact, don’t guess. Try it.

Re: Apple Music Classical

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I would love to see something like this for jazz, which has musicians constantly moving through groups and albums as musicians and composers and writers. Like take "Take Five", one of my favorites. It was written by Paul Desmond for the Dave Brubeck Quartet, with solos by Desmond on alto sax and Joe Morello on drums. Those are all fun pieces of information that I wish I could click through to see more of. Just like c…

I think the problem with separating jazz is that its boundaries are far more porous than classical. There's virtually never a question as to whether a piece is classical or not. (Except maybe soundtrack scores which are a weird category of their own.) But jazz tends to fuse with every other genre out there. You can find an artist at every point on the spectrum between jazz and hip-hop. Another way of looking at it is…

for some composers, they are: Gershwin, Ellington, Rodgers & Hart, Cole Porter. Artists do entire albums featuring them alone.

And there are some who you'd really like to see in their own sequence: Johnny Mercer and Hoagy Carmichael come to mind.

But generally, you're right.

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I'm not too proud to admit I enjoy the video game stuff The stigma against video game music can’t go away soon enough! Composers are creating some really amazing stuff for video games and gamers themselves are an enormous audience for the wider classical music industry to draw upon. To their credit, a lot of orchestras have recognized this and have been performing video game music for years. Along with film scores (a…

1. Go find any of the text commentaries that Austin Wintory has done about the Journey soundtrack. 2. Clear an hour off your schedule, close your eyes and listen . Edit : On second thought, keep your eyes open and enjoy the beautiful artwork by Matt Nava (taken from his book on Journey) as well as a selection of fan art which is equally stunning considering most of the people are probably not professional graphic des…

Thanks so much for sharing this with me! Austin's score is deeply moving. Now I can't stop thinking about it.

I think I played the game a long time ago but I believe I was visiting a friend (who had already played through it) at the time and I wasn't in the right frame of mind to experience it. Now I want to track down a PS4 and play it again.

This reminded me of another score I love: Endless Legend by Arnaud Roy. Similar instrumentation to Journey (albeit with lots of human voices). It has a different feel though, for a radically different game (a turn-based strategy game).

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I can definitely see why they passed. In 2017, it was already clear that streaming options render any music-purchasing platform niche at best, and a shrinking niche at that. Sad, but true.

It's only true as long as the content owner play with it. The day the content owner stop wanting to license their catalog, the platforms die. The majors let themselves go into that trap because they failed at finding a viable digital model and the streaming platform showed them a way to keep making some money. Show them a better model that works and they will follow the money. In 2017, the classical music market was…

> For classical, streaming is not an option

> Streaming is the death of the classical recording industry.

Apple seems to disagree, so I guess we'll see. It clear that the best days are behind us, at any rate.

Bottom line: you might have been right that there was still a market to capture in 2017, but YC was also right to see that it was a shrinking market, not exactly the sort of thing in which they're most interested. It's hard to imagine a world in which the market for classical music is bigger today than it was in 2017, regardless of how well you--or anyone else--executed.

Re: Apple Music Classical

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I can definitely see why they passed. In 2017, it was already clear that streaming options render any music-purchasing platform niche at best, and a shrinking niche at that. Sad, but true.

It's only true as long as the content owner play with it. The day the content owner stop wanting to license their catalog, the platforms die. The majors let themselves go into that trap because they failed at finding a viable digital model and the streaming platform showed them a way to keep making some money. Show them a better model that works and they will follow the money. In 2017, the classical music market was…

What are your thoughts on apps like the Berlin Phil's Digital Concert Hall, or DG's Stage+? Those are streaming services at a more premium price, with smaller catalogs, but featuring new works and newly recorded works and generally high quality recordings.

As an end consumer of classical music, a streaming app like this one or the two I named make discoverability much easier in a way that is very appealing compared to direct sales. Even if there is a smaller total library available to me, I am much more easily able to explore that library and build my tastes. I think ideally, I would want an app that allows me to explore the streaming catalog of classical music in a discoverable, personalizable way, but that offers a way to buy these direct sale-exclusive recordings you're talking about once I'm confident about what I might enjoy. My Berlin Phil membership completely changed my understanding of classical, because it was so easy to just give something a try and the performances are so well-curated, often with a spoken introduction for context.

I'm a big jazz fan, and I know that Blue Note for instance seems to have done very well selling a lot of physical media with their vinyl series, including newly recorded albums. I've probably heard as much recently recorded jazz music on vinyl as on digital - and now that I think of it, there's a discoverability element there: if Blue Note bothers to press it to wax, it's probably pretty good. Most of the newly composed jazz I hear is performed live, though, and that seems to be the best way for most performers in the genre to make some income from it.

Re: Apple Music Classical

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This is great - it being a separate app solves some core problems! It's a hard firewall between my "normal" music library and classical, which means risk free shuffle play. I never want Bach and Slayer in sequence. They can optimize the UI, recommendations, etc. based on music that is all about reproduction, rather than being performed by the original artists. Going against the grain and honing in on a total niche is…

>> It's a hard firewall between my "normal" music library and classical, which means risk free shuffle play. I never want Bach and Slayer in sequence.

It's actually not. The library is shared so your classical music will still appear in Apple Music. It's just that your pop/rock etc. music will not appear in the Classical app. e.g. add a playlist or album to your Classical library then check recently added in the standard Music app - you should also see it there.

Re: Apple Music Classical

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How is Apple Music playback on Amazon Echo devices? Does Apple have anything as nice as Spotify Connect? My current setup is that I have an Echo Dot connected by the line out to my A/V receiver, with the microphone turned off. With Spotify Connect the Spotify on my computer or phone can tell the Spotify on the Dot to play a song, album, or playlist. The Spotify on the Dot then streams that music from Spotify. I can t…

>Does Apple have anything as nice as Spotify Connect

It sure doesn't. I generally love Apple Music, but you can really feel the neglect Apple pays to its non-preferred platforms once you attempt to use it on 3rd party hardware.

Listening to Apple Music on the PS5 while playing a videogame is way more kludgy than it needs to be. The little pop-up card in the dashboard never seems to completely match the recently played on my phone, and only provides about a dozen shortcuts to recent plays and albums apparently randomly selected from my library. Launching the full app will often close the game or disconnect it from the internet and send it back to the homescreen. Attempting to use Airplay will, of course, completely exit the game and take over the entire PS5 with Apple TV.

By comparison, the Spotify experience was: Start game. Open spotify, tap Connect. Tap PS5. Play whatever I want, done. This feature was the single biggest factor keeping me on Spotify but after getting an AVR with Atmos support I just couldn't stay on that platform, which seems to get less investment into music related features relative to everything else every year.

Re: Apple Music Classical

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Oh my, 192kHz/24bit. One would expect Apple would not need snake oil to sell their product. To those not so familiar with audio DSP: 192kHz and 24bit make perfect sense if you intend to mangle the audio a LOT afterwards. At 192kHz, you can pitch shift your audio down by two octaves and still have frequency content in the entire CD spectrum. Very useful, and common, for movie effects. And 24bit, or better even 32bit,…

Have you personally tested this in a blind study? I have, and the higher quality made a noticeable difference and I was able to identify it and prefer it across all test cases. The others I tested with did not notice any difference. It could be one of those cilantro things idk. But other accounts are in line with my experience: https://audiophilereview.com/audiophile-music/yes-19224-file...
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