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Re: Apple Music Classical

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Post by reaperducer »

johndill wrote: post #94

Looks nice but I have to play with it more. It has certainly been "Appleinzed". Playlists feature single movements of pieces that make little musical sense outside of the context of the whole composition they were meant to be a part of. For new users looking to dop their toes in the Classical world the absolute first, featured piece you see is Mahler's 9th symphony. Certainly not something new listeners would likely…

Playlists feature single movements of pieces that make little musical sense outside of the context of the whole composition they were meant to be a part of.

That's a fundamental flaw of playlists, and not unique to this app or to any music created before the streaming era.

Re: Apple Music Classical

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Post by easyThrowaway »

throwanem wrote: post #169
easyThrowaway wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The idea that Bach composed the Well tempered clavier and similar works merely in a mechanical process is basically a fairy tale, and it's kind obvious once you read the music sheets.

I might've been clearer I was making a joke, I suppose.

Oh. Sorry, I've heard that so many times with no hints of irony that it flew quite over my head.

Re: Apple Music Classical

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Post by joelfried »

TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #25

This looks ok, but I can't be the only person suffering Content Fatigue. Between access to infinite music, infinite movies and TV, infinite gaming, and infinite news - and that's just leisure - I'm not sure how much time I have left for a finite life.

I've noticed this feeling myself in the last year, and, honestly I've found it somewhat freeing by following this logic:

1. There is infinite content for me to consume.

2. I have a finite life.

3. Even if I spend my entire life trying, I cannot consume all content.

4. Since I cannot consume all content, there will be content that I will not consume that I would have enjoyed.

5. I want to spend my life doing some things other than consuming media.

6. Given 4 & 5, "I would enjoy it" is no longer a sufficient condition for me to consume some media.

7. Given 6, my feelings of FOMO have gone down considerably. What's to be afraid of, when there's always another product to fill the same "mild enjoyment" void?

Re: Apple Music Classical

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Post by lelag »

mmcdermott wrote: post #161
lelag wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, that's what I wanted to address and in the same way Steam address it with video games. You buy albums but you get the convenience of streaming services with no additional fees forever. Same as with Steam, I expected users to keep buying album regularity even if they didn't listen to them much. (cue seasonal sales etc...)

Just of of curiosity, how did your approach differ from Amazon's MP3 store?

Mostly because the goal was to offer a premium experience targeted at the classical music enthusiast. UX was close to what you can see with Apple Classical or Idagio. On the business side, the model was really Steam and not any music store, seasonal sales included. Anyway, I only had a few month to try to raise some capital and I failed, so it's history now.

Re: Apple Music Classical

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Post by Miraste »

lelag wrote: post #152
tgv wrote: post #37

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I've used Idagio for 6 months. They have a reasonable interface, good performances and sound quality, but their catalog is indeed limited. There are hundreds of performances of the same well-known works, but there's not (very) much beyond it. I've discovered about 100 fairly unknown composers through YouTube that I consider quite good, but many of them are missing from Idagio, or are listed with one or two works. The…

> That could never change. Trying to revert that situtation was my bet. The 20th century was a golden age for recorded music. Maybe there is no coming back but I don't think (or I didn't think then) that streaming services are in a very strong position in the long run: consumers like them because the current deal is that you pay a single subscription and you have access to basically all the music (a very nice proposi…

Spotify's power comes from more than its ubiquity. Pop music, the kind that charts (and the only kind labels care about), is way more commodified than TV shows. If Sony were to make a streaming service with just their music and leave Spotify/Apple Music/Amazon/etc, their artists would simply fail to chart ever again.

The advantage of a single streaming service with all the songs is also much greater than one with all the shows or movies. Nobody puts Netflix on "shuffle" or lets it play random episodes based on what they've watched in the past, but those are some of Spotify's biggest features. Its user shareable playlists also increase lock-in, along with other network effects. It's such a huge advantage to be able to play anything (or almost anything), I don't see how a service with a limited selection could compete.

I don't see any way for the labels to get out of the streaming age beyond serious anticompetitive collusion, and even then people would go back to piracy. Frankly, it couldn't happen to a nicer group of folks.

Re: Apple Music Classical

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Post by [deleted] »

afandian wrote: post #21
augustl wrote: post #10

Maybe we'll finally get a music app where classical music isn't categorized by Album/Artist :) Classical doesn't really fit that well into a schema, since you have composers, performers, and then under performers there's soloist, or multiple soloists, which orchestra, which conductor, and so on. And it would also be nice to have things like "show most popular recordings of Beethoven's 5th".

It fits perfectly well into a schema, it's just been ignored for some reason since the dawn of ID3. It's crazy Apple considered it better to write a completely new app rather than improve their existing product.

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Re: Apple Music Classical

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Post by chrisfinazzo »

chongli wrote: post #115
throwanem wrote: post #73

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There are a few composers I support on Patreon who also do their own production via extensive combinations of plugins and soundfonts in applications I've barely ever heard of before. The result is hard to distinguish from a human orchestra, save in the nature of the occasional errors, which are always of composition rather than execution. This would I think be a lot more common were it not such a niche interest. Even…

I'm not too proud to admit I enjoy the video game stuff The stigma against video game music can’t go away soon enough! Composers are creating some really amazing stuff for video games and gamers themselves are an enormous audience for the wider classical music industry to draw upon. To their credit, a lot of orchestras have recognized this and have been performing video game music for years. Along with film scores (a…

1. Go find any of the text commentaries that Austin Wintory has done about the Journey soundtrack.

2. Clear an hour off your schedule, close your eyes and listen.

Edit: On second thought, keep your eyes open and enjoy the beautiful artwork by Matt Nava (taken from his book on Journey) as well as a selection of fan art which is equally stunning considering most of the people are probably not professional graphic designers.

Fuck...it's so good it makes me emotional just typing this sentence.

Also worthy of note: Tan Dun and Yo Yo Ma's recording of the Crouching Tiger soundtrack and his recordings of the Bach solos.

Alas, I must end with the complaint that the current recordings of the original Star Wars soundtracks use track listings that are out of order with their "appearances" in the films.

This is not accceptable.

Re: Apple Music Classical

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Post by [deleted] »

reaperducer wrote: post #181
mbo wrote: post #173

> There’s no separate subscription for Apple Music Classical. It’s included at no extra cost with all Apple Music subscriptions except the Apple Music Voice Plan. Bit of a missed opportunity here to provide a cheaper subscription just for Classical. Apple could have captured Spotify users who would be willing to pay a small premium for a nicer classical UX, but would be unwilling to take out an additional full-priced…

Bit of a missed opportunity here to provide a cheaper subscription just for Classical. I don't think the people this app is for are all that price-sensitive. I look at Apple Music as a classical music subscription, with 90 million other tracks included for free.

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