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I tried going all-in on using iCloud Keychain (correct term?) for my passwords from having previously used LastPass. In short. 1. The experience on Windows is terrible. They can claim it's cross-platform but it's truly a sub-par product. 2. On Mac it's tied specifically to Safari. I use Safari a lot but if I'm in a different browser then my passwords are unavailable. 3. The GUI is buried in System Settings. Heaven fo…

I use chrome to manage passwords on all my devices, it works well except for apps. When I'm trying to get a password for an app in iOS, I just switch to chrome to get the password. Same if my password was from registering from an app and I'm in Chrome. Rinse and repeat and now my passwords are in both password managers. As for TOTP, if I lose my phone I don't know what will happen.

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Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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I tried going all-in on using iCloud Keychain (correct term?) for my passwords from having previously used LastPass. In short. 1. The experience on Windows is terrible. They can claim it's cross-platform but it's truly a sub-par product. 2. On Mac it's tied specifically to Safari. I use Safari a lot but if I'm in a different browser then my passwords are unavailable. 3. The GUI is buried in System Settings. Heaven fo…

That's all by design. They want you 100% on Apple products to get the full experience.

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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I switched to Apple's password manager after being burned by Twilio Authy's inability to retrieve the 2FA setup codes. I wish they had made this lock-in more clear.

Overall I'm happy with my decision. I'm now even using Safari over Chrome full-time because it has the benefits 2FA autofill.

Only thing missing is a dedicated app, but I have Apple Shortcut that works well enough in the meantime.

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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> I use Safari a lot but if I'm in a different browser then my passwords are unavailable. Chrome used to be tied into Keychain but they went their own way a long time ago, which is a damn shame.

I believe Apple only lets you use certain APIs (like Keychain) if you distribute only through the App Store. That policy has really killed a lot of functionality on macOS. I suspect it will cause fiction on iOS when the EU forces them to allow alternative install sources. Personally, it grates me when Apple cripples functionality this way to try to keep us stuck in their platform. Can't use Firefox with Keychain. You…

I will always regret being just slightly too late to enjoy Apple's golden era. When, yes, using an iPod meant locking into iTunes, but at least you didn't have Tim Cook nagging his captured audience into signing up for Apple Music Subscription Plus - Now for Families!

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I use chrome to manage passwords on all my devices, it works well except for apps. When I'm trying to get a password for an app in iOS, I just switch to chrome to get the password. Same if my password was from registering from an app and I'm in Chrome. Rinse and repeat and now my passwords are in both password managers. As for TOTP, if I lose my phone I don't know what will happen.

Settings > Passwords > Password Options > AutoFill Passwords + Allow Filling From Chrome Most apps can use passwords from Chrome just fine, and you can also quickly open the native passwords window when encountering a password field using the key icon. For TOTP, use apps like Authy which can be installed and used from multiple devices.

Awesome - thanks for sharing!

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There seems to be a Google Chrome extension called "iCloud Passwords" but it only has two stars, so I don't think you'll be positively surprised. Also, on iPhone it's ok-ish but on Mac the experience is a subpar too: Keychain, the app you use to view your passwords, feels like a 90s Visual Basic application. Plus you can't organize your accounts, and even if you prefix them to "sort by name", the special name you giv…

What's wrong with Keychain Access? It hasn't changed its appearance since more than a decade. That's a good thing for familiarity. Early Mac OS X apps have incredibly good design that doesn't waste space.

Guess which app is ripe for a Swift UI redesign soon!

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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I tried going all-in on using iCloud Keychain (correct term?) for my passwords from having previously used LastPass. In short. 1. The experience on Windows is terrible. They can claim it's cross-platform but it's truly a sub-par product. 2. On Mac it's tied specifically to Safari. I use Safari a lot but if I'm in a different browser then my passwords are unavailable. 3. The GUI is buried in System Settings. Heaven fo…

Apple makes a iCloud Passwords chrome extension: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/icloud-passwords/p...

And it’s slow two star garbage.

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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Even if macOS and iOS are my primary work (and personal) platforms these days, I still like a solution that works great on Windows, Linux, and Android as well. I'm pretty happy with 1Password - it does all of the things mentioned in this article with more platform support

Exactly, this is why many of the Apple services are useless unless you are 110% in their ecosystem. At least Apple Music is the one app they somehow made available on Android and Windows.

There's a feature on the AirPods that allows you to enroll them in your iCloud account enabling Find My.

All you need to do is connect the AirPods to an iCloud-enrolled Apple device, and it will automatically connect to that iCloud account.

Oh, but it's not any iCloud-enrolled device, it must be an iOS device. Connecting them to my MacBook didn't do anything.

I went into the Apple Store to ask for a solution to that problem. They legitimately asked me why I'm buying AirPods if I don't have an iPhone -- they're called Air Pods after all... Anyway, their proposed solution was for me to buy a refurbished iPad for $450 to connect the AirPods to my iCloud.

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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The problem is Keychain Access doesn't pass the "mom test" (would you average consumer - e.g. your mom - actually use it)

They don't even know why it's called that

Because you can store non-passwords in there too.

Secure notes, your own signing certificates, keys, root CAs, and specific self signed certs you've accepted for SSL.

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