OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

Post by 93po » Fri, Mar 24, 2023, 11:48 PM UTC

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Whenever there’s a big shift like this it’s always tempting to look at the new thing as say how great it is - and ChatGPT is awesome. But it’s also worth looking at how shit the old thing has become. Google.com now literally delivers you an entire page of ads before any real results. It’s blatant profit-squeezing instead of trying to serve their users. This is their reward.

> It’s blatant profit-squeezing It's not just font end users feeling this, but advertisers too. Google ads just keep getting more expensive, harder to control and in many cases less effective. You have to, as an advertiser, give Google so much data about your operations and revenue to get the algorithms to work, it's ridiculous. I'm immensely suspicious of how they use the data they have access to about advertisers b…

Post by kamaal » Fri, Mar 24, 2023, 11:48 PM UTC

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>>The problem is that Google’s core business model is too profitable, that nothing else can ever compete for attention and resources. I'm guessing their OKR's go on the lines of building billion dollar businesses or nothing at all. And 'nothing at all' winning at the end.

Very common at large companies. When I was an IT industry analyst I remember talking to someone at IBM about some new business initiative and they basically said if it didn't have serious potential to grow to a billion dollar business at some point, it wasn't interesting. At large companies, there are just so many costs associated with attention, management effort, and everything else even if an initiative is sort of…

Post by jononomo » Sat, Mar 25, 2023, 12:02 AM UTC

Post by taude » Sat, Mar 25, 2023, 12:13 AM UTC

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For code - I can read the code and verify myself... If I was asking whether the sky is blue or some other kind of "fact" based question sure... But really how is that different with search? I can look at the website and say ah I trust this website over that other website... I think it's a new flavor of "don't trust everything you hear on the TV" Or in more modern day "Don't trust everything you read on the internet",…

> "Don't trust everything you read on the internet", or "Don't trust everything you hear on social media" There is a difference. There are places with reputation and backlogs and even with scientific references. But if AI just gives you a text, there is nothing. Until they fix references, you can’t really use it for anything factual, non-logical information.

Post by anonylizard » Sat, Mar 25, 2023, 12:24 AM UTC

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I wonder if AI search could be sth consumers would happily pay a tiny bit for

They wouldn't pay for AI search, but might for AI that also searches.