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OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

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Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

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Users have to sign in with a Microsoft account to use this. Is that the future? You have to sign up to search? It takes more resources per query to run AI-based search than a search engine. Everybody offering ChatGPT type systems is either pay per view or heavily throttled. We may be in the last days of free search as the dominant product.

ChatGPT also asks for phone.

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

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The rumour I keep hearing is that it's like the Hunger Games inside Google at the moment. Total chaos and infighting at all levels, investors are freaking out over AI and Bard's middling performance compared to OpenAI and blood is in the water. Sundar may be forced to resign and Larry/Sergei deployed to rescue the company.

Well, Sundar and Google leadership have been massively outmaneuvered here by both Nadella and OpenAI. It's really quite embarrassing, particularly in the context of the fact that Google was the undisputed leader in AI for over a decade. As a Alphabet shareholder, I won't be sad to see Sundar go.

>Well, Sundar and Google leadership have been massively outmaneuvered here by both Nadella and OpenAI.

Have they thought about introducing more leetcode questions? /s

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

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The rumour I keep hearing is that it's like the Hunger Games inside Google at the moment. Total chaos and infighting at all levels, investors are freaking out over AI and Bard's middling performance compared to OpenAI and blood is in the water. Sundar may be forced to resign and Larry/Sergei deployed to rescue the company.

Well, Sundar and Google leadership have been massively outmaneuvered here by both Nadella and OpenAI. It's really quite embarrassing, particularly in the context of the fact that Google was the undisputed leader in AI for over a decade. As a Alphabet shareholder, I won't be sad to see Sundar go.

Was surprised developing AGI wasn’t one of their moonshots based on their own AI expertise

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

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The rumour I keep hearing is that it's like the Hunger Games inside Google at the moment. Total chaos and infighting at all levels, investors are freaking out over AI and Bard's middling performance compared to OpenAI and blood is in the water. Sundar may be forced to resign and Larry/Sergei deployed to rescue the company.

Well, Sundar and Google leadership have been massively outmaneuvered here by both Nadella and OpenAI. It's really quite embarrassing, particularly in the context of the fact that Google was the undisputed leader in AI for over a decade. As a Alphabet shareholder, I won't be sad to see Sundar go.

I think OpenAI just executed with perfection, also their focus on AI was a big competitive advantage vs Google who have 50 different things

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, Sundar and Google leadership have been massively outmaneuvered here by both Nadella and OpenAI. It's really quite embarrassing, particularly in the context of the fact that Google was the undisputed leader in AI for over a decade. As a Alphabet shareholder, I won't be sad to see Sundar go.

Is Sundar a bad CEO or merely a mediocre one though? Who would replace him that could get the job done where Sundar failed? I think it's easier said than done to stay the undisputed leader in AI for over a decade even if your leadership is above-average. Still Sundar is mediocre at best, and I certainly think Google's shareholders should be looking for a new person to run the place. It's not just AI, Google's entire…

Half the people on here have as much or more vision

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

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post #216

Clawing 1% away from Google's market share is likely one of the most challenging moats to cross on the internet. And all it took was creating the singularity.

Except they didn't. They only took 0.42% of Google's traffic [1] (probably less than that even, since Google isn't the only other search engine), and this hasn't been even 2 months since it got introduced, which means it's largely driven by hype.

[1] https://www.oberlo.com/statistics/search-engine-market-share

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

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post #237

Maybe because Google is actual trash and it went from being the best search engine to being an SEO-infested desert of a search, where your query is interpreted however they want not how you want. Latest example from today - search for "micropython html parser" - 100% of results are about normal python not micropython, with the first 4 results being for generic paid programming courses. It's completely useless as a se…

I can't believe how disconnected I always feel on the Google search conversations here. It still does what I need it for fine, I don't remember it being significantly better than it is now. I guess I'm not a power user? But I also think this is how the most people feel. On this site Google has been a shockingly useless zombie for years.

Since google search results are tailored to your particular history and profile, it may be as simple as you fitting into Google's way of doing that better than others.

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

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That's cool in the short term, but it will be news when it's sustained. I logged in to Bing for the first time in forever to play with the AI some, but it didn't change my default search behavior of using Google, and now it's been easily two weeks since I went to Bing at all.

No matter how many hoops I've jumped through I still can't get access.

Signed in, installed Edge, etc.. It seems like I'm just stuck on the waitlist.

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, Sundar and Google leadership have been massively outmaneuvered here by both Nadella and OpenAI. It's really quite embarrassing, particularly in the context of the fact that Google was the undisputed leader in AI for over a decade. As a Alphabet shareholder, I won't be sad to see Sundar go.

Is Sundar a bad CEO or merely a mediocre one though? Who would replace him that could get the job done where Sundar failed? I think it's easier said than done to stay the undisputed leader in AI for over a decade even if your leadership is above-average. Still Sundar is mediocre at best, and I certainly think Google's shareholders should be looking for a new person to run the place. It's not just AI, Google's entire…

Has no CS background, studied material sci → consulting → Google PM

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundar_Pichai

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, Sundar and Google leadership have been massively outmaneuvered here by both Nadella and OpenAI. It's really quite embarrassing, particularly in the context of the fact that Google was the undisputed leader in AI for over a decade. As a Alphabet shareholder, I won't be sad to see Sundar go.

Is Sundar a bad CEO or merely a mediocre one though? Who would replace him that could get the job done where Sundar failed? I think it's easier said than done to stay the undisputed leader in AI for over a decade even if your leadership is above-average. Still Sundar is mediocre at best, and I certainly think Google's shareholders should be looking for a new person to run the place. It's not just AI, Google's entire…

He’s not a bad CEO. Just not an innovative one. I don’t think it’s an easy job even keeping the Google ship sailing, leave alone the rest of Alphabet (which Sundar is also the CEO of).

I often think of his time at Google as Ballmer’s time at Microsoft. Not unsuccessful, business grew manifold. But not pushing the bar. Nothing to keep the competitors on their toes. Like Apple did with Apple Silicon.

I heard this somewhere: you have leaders for peacetime, and leaders for wartime. They are seldom the same people.

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