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OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

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Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

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The rumour I keep hearing is that it's like the Hunger Games inside Google at the moment. Total chaos and infighting at all levels, investors are freaking out over AI and Bard's middling performance compared to OpenAI and blood is in the water. Sundar may be forced to resign and Larry/Sergei deployed to rescue the company.

+1 except for Larry/Sergei ever returning, I think that ship sailed about 10 years ago

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

#192

The rumour I keep hearing is that it's like the Hunger Games inside Google at the moment. Total chaos and infighting at all levels, investors are freaking out over AI and Bard's middling performance compared to OpenAI and blood is in the water. Sundar may be forced to resign and Larry/Sergei deployed to rescue the company.

Time to layoff 50,000 employees and announce another stock buy back to prop up the share price for <24 hours

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

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I signed up to the Bing GPT "beta" waitlist (I hadn't logged into my Microsoft account in years) only to be told, days later, that I had to use Edge to try it. I noped out of there.

You can just install the app on your phone and use it

I'd rather install edge on my computer than type more than one sentence using my phone.

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

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This might be a trope here, but recently I noticed that the quality of search results has degraded quite a bit for me. When I e.g. search for Golang-related content (often I want just the official docs of a module like net/http) I get all these developer-focused, SEO-optimized blogs that are kind of helpful but often not, and I have to scroll all the way down to get the official docs. I really wonder if that has to d…

My personal opinion is that this has nothing to do with SEO. All those developer-focused blogs serve Google ads, while the official Go documentation does not. Google is trying to boost revenue by promoting results with ads.

This is exactly it. Google is trying to get people to stay on the pages they click, and they optimize for this behavior, not for utility or for quickly accessing information.

If you go to a page and immediately find what you are looking for, Google interprets that as failure.

This is why Bing and AI based search can completely beat Google web search, because they are trying to serve the searcher rather than serve ads.

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

#195

The rumour I keep hearing is that it's like the Hunger Games inside Google at the moment. Total chaos and infighting at all levels, investors are freaking out over AI and Bard's middling performance compared to OpenAI and blood is in the water. Sundar may be forced to resign and Larry/Sergei deployed to rescue the company.

LMAO, sounds like fun

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

#196

That's cool in the short term, but it will be news when it's sustained. I logged in to Bing for the first time in forever to play with the AI some, but it didn't change my default search behavior of using Google, and now it's been easily two weeks since I went to Bing at all.

I would 100% use Bing more if they offered a "minimal" or "low bandwidth" mode that cuts out all of the pictures, news, weather, etc. and just takes me to the results.

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

#197

Bing’s search product (ignoring the chatbot) is quite good and comparable with Google. I (and I assume, many people like me) would have never tried it if not for the Bing Chat hype. I find myself using Bing Search more than Google or Bing Chat now.

Only in English. For other languages, Bing was and continues to be garbage.

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

#198
I believe Google is going to see a major hit and the thing is they can't do anything to stop it. They have an incentive to keep search traffic high and unfortunately for them GPT-4 is so good that it gets answers faster with less ads then Google. It's similar to how Google disrupted other search engines in the late 90s. I'm thinking about how I craft my prompt to get the right answer, similar to how I used to think about how I craft the correct keyword search to get the right answer. I have not even tried via bing.com yet just using chat.openai.com selecting gpt-4 and I find much better answers faster then googling... I still google somethings like: "convert 70F to C"... but for help with coding solutions I just ask gpt4

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

#199

Maybe because Google is actual trash and it went from being the best search engine to being an SEO-infested desert of a search, where your query is interpreted however they want not how you want. Latest example from today - search for "micropython html parser" - 100% of results are about normal python not micropython, with the first 4 results being for generic paid programming courses. It's completely useless as a se…

They stopped caring about what information you want to get and instead give you the information they think you should get. Sometimes it works, sometimes it's just awful.

Not to mention the constant pain that's localization/internationalization as well as some of the queries becoming worse and worse. The service is supposed to become better with time, not the contrary. Plus, of course, all the SEO garbage.

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