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OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

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Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

#51

Maybe because Google is actual trash and it went from being the best search engine to being an SEO-infested desert of a search, where your query is interpreted however they want not how you want. Latest example from today - search for "micropython html parser" - 100% of results are about normal python not micropython, with the first 4 results being for generic paid programming courses. It's completely useless as a se…

I know this might be controversial but I believe SEO ruined search.

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

#52

That's cool in the short term, but it will be news when it's sustained. I logged in to Bing for the first time in forever to play with the AI some, but it didn't change my default search behavior of using Google, and now it's been easily two weeks since I went to Bing at all.

The Bing AI is too crippled. It would be nice to have the option to remove its handcuffs. The chat limit and the constant “I’m sorry but I cannot continue this line of conversation” gets annoying fast. I was also able to get better answers from ChatGpt running on gpt3 than on Bing running on gpt4 for this very reason.

They don't have the stomach for the bad press, which is to say they don't have the stomach to be committed innovators.

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

#53
I personally use much less google since Bing Chat came out.

That being said it makes me worry a lot. Not that GPT is going to replace me or something, but how effectively it can serve ads to me if it wants. If MS decided to do evil with Bing Chat (which is almost inevitable), it would make today's Google look like a charity.

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

#54
Bing’s search product (ignoring the chatbot) is quite good and comparable with Google. I (and I assume, many people like me) would have never tried it if not for the Bing Chat hype. I find myself using Bing Search more than Google or Bing Chat now.

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

#55

Maybe because Google is actual trash and it went from being the best search engine to being an SEO-infested desert of a search, where your query is interpreted however they want not how you want. Latest example from today - search for "micropython html parser" - 100% of results are about normal python not micropython, with the first 4 results being for generic paid programming courses. It's completely useless as a se…

using whoggle i got https://pypi.org/project/micropython-html.parser/ as the first result

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

#56

I feel like I’m missing out on something but other than to summarize text or fill pointless and lazy homework assignments I don’t have much of a use of gpt search. I think I have a trust issue with it and I rather get the raw result and process it myself than to believe that what this model “understood” is right. Anyone else feels this way?

I find it useful in Edge where it's aware of the tab contents. It's nice to be able to ask it to summarize a long article, or find Reddit comments about it and summarize those. I think it uses Bing's search index because it does not seem to be aware of my personal data on my tabs

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

#57
post #51

Maybe because Google is actual trash and it went from being the best search engine to being an SEO-infested desert of a search, where your query is interpreted however they want not how you want. Latest example from today - search for "micropython html parser" - 100% of results are about normal python not micropython, with the first 4 results being for generic paid programming courses. It's completely useless as a se…

I know this might be controversial but I believe SEO ruined search.

Do yo think if you prompted that to GTP it would detect sarcasm?

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

#58

Maybe because Google is actual trash and it went from being the best search engine to being an SEO-infested desert of a search, where your query is interpreted however they want not how you want. Latest example from today - search for "micropython html parser" - 100% of results are about normal python not micropython, with the first 4 results being for generic paid programming courses. It's completely useless as a se…

Are you for real ? I mean, pick better examples if you want to poke something, since:

Search for "micropython html parser" gets you https://pypi.org/project/micropython-html.parser/ as the first result with the quote: "This is a module ported from CPython standard library to be compatible with MicroPython interpreter."

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

#59

Maybe because Google is actual trash and it went from being the best search engine to being an SEO-infested desert of a search, where your query is interpreted however they want not how you want. Latest example from today - search for "micropython html parser" - 100% of results are about normal python not micropython, with the first 4 results being for generic paid programming courses. It's completely useless as a se…

I agree, but the part I’m failing to see in the conversation is what the future looks like.

If the chat approach is gaining visits, then ad companies will follow, so what then?

The chat offers up the same seo ad laden tripe but further obfuscates it, and alternatives, while caging it in a conversational tone?

Is that better? Worse?

If these chat offerings only cause search to step back and attempt to recreate the early days of usable search then they would appear a success in my eyes.

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

#60

That's cool in the short term, but it will be news when it's sustained. I logged in to Bing for the first time in forever to play with the AI some, but it didn't change my default search behavior of using Google, and now it's been easily two weeks since I went to Bing at all.

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