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Anti-porn bills could force device makers to censor sexual material

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Religion controls people. Whether you think it's a lie is up to you & subjective. Laws are based on someone else's ideas and those ideas control you.

Well given religions are all different and only one could be true, it's more correct to say they're all a lie. One might be true. However, as old ones have died away and new ones will be created and the current ones evolve it's not even possible to say that any one religion is subjectively true to itself.

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I’d prefer if we’d start by censoring violence and religion. Religion is just a big lie to manipulate people.

Religion controls people. Whether you think it's a lie is up to you & subjective. Laws are based on someone else's ideas and those ideas control you.

Some laws were lobbied through lies too.

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Dogmatic and wrong but at least you said it with confidence. This simplistic line of 'porn bad' is just the pretense for labeling anything out of line with your religion's prescribed morality as pornohrafic and therefore worthy of being expunged by violent means. This ideology never stops at videos containing nudity or sex but continues on to being directed at music, literature, women who don't cover their heads, Tra…

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> Where is the line between porn and art Why would there need to be a line? Something can be porn or art, or both. There is no conflict. Anything done between two consenting adults should be completely un-controversial. > Where do you draw the line; why draw it “there” as opposed to anywhere else; by what right is it to suppress, in the process, others’ definition of where to draw said line? What is the point in havi…

> two consenting adults Why stop at two?

Fair enough.

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Porn has its fair share of issues with human trafficking, exploitation etc. But to label all porn as not good is not correct either in my opinion. If, as an example, you find a porn account of a consentual couple who uploads videos on their own terms - why would that be bad?

Also who defines 'porn'. Is porn any photo that shows nudity, or where do you draw the line on vanilla videos vs more extreme. You might end up with devices blocking all photos of a woman topless, or naked men, even art. Does Michelangelo's David statue get his privates covered or blocked? Or like in China where they increasing block things like picture/videos of women eating bananas as that is taken as sexual (and t…

The same religious people pushing this law claim that books acknowledging the existence of queer people is pornographic. Forgive me for my cynicism but I think this is less about pornography and more about providing a legal framework for Christians to censor information about queer identities, reproductive healthcare, and things of that nature.

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It would be amusing to put in a gun recognizer, so unless you enable porn, you can't look at pictures of guns. Just to annoy Idaho.

Why Idaho? I thought Texas was the big gun state.

Idaho just legalized execution by firing squad and are considering repealing their anti-militia law. Texas gets a lot of attention because of its size, but Idaho is maybe the outright craziest state almost completely controlled at the state government level by Christian/Mormon theocratic fascists.

Re: Anti-porn bills could force device makers to censor sexual material

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Fuck these prudes. It's time to stop accepting the demonization of sex by religious extremists. If we don't fight for our rights we forfeit them.

We need a middle ground. Sex is not equal to porn either. No parent wants their child accessing porn but locking devices is the wrong step. ISPs should do a better job at completely blocking porn access. It's poorly implemented in the UK.

Locking devices is the wrong step, but deploying nation-scale firewalls to block content you happen to find objectionable, isn't?

If you want to block porn in your own home, there's plenty of consumer gear out there that allows you to do just that. Why do you want to voluntarily expand power of the government to moderate content that you're allowed to access?

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I'm a woman. I watch porn. I've made porn (well, I've posted nudes online.) I definitely don't think it's twisted the way I see women (or, like, myself.) I'm pretty done with men deciding what's in my best interest though.

What about the predatory nature of the industry ? 18 year olds being hunted down to "act" in these pieces, mostly by older men who are just using these women for their own pleasure and financial benefits. Is this okay ?

> What about the predatory nature of the industry ? 18 year olds being hunted down to "serve", mostly by older men who are just using these young men for their own political and financial benefits.

Your complaint could just as easily be applied to the US army and the consequences there are often much more severe. Food for thought.

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