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Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by andylynch »

davchana wrote: post #266
cdepman wrote: post #75

Wonderful. I recently rented a model 3 and found it incredibly frustrating that it required multiple touches to adjust settings that would be a single button press on a more traditional car. Don’t even get me started on the windshield wipers - a total nightmare in winter storms and located on the left stalk? These are safety concerns. As long as humans are operating these dangerous vehicles, I vote for fewer driver d…

Is (among other things) having windshield wipers control on left stalk being a dangerous thing? That cars I had in other countries (with opposite side driving) had signals on right & wipers on left stalk.

Not really - just mildly embarrassing, like spilling your coffee when opening a door. Where I come from imported cars vary left or right stalk. So it’s common to see people accidentally washing windows especially in rentals. No great harm and mostly amusement value since it’s very obvious to everyone, everybody’s done it, and nine times out of time they just try again the other way and get it right after that.

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Post by Iolaum »

tastysandwich wrote: post #154

When researching family cars recently, I literally avoided the Honda CR-V just because the AC was controlled via the touch screen. There's a "Climate" button, which brings up a screen on the display where you can turn the aircon on/off, up/down, etc. It's just horrendous. Give me my dials. My worst gripe - which all modern cars have - is the aggressive bluetooth auto-connect. If my wife takes the car, it will automat…

And this is why open ecosystems are better for the customer. If the software in the car was more open - even just as much as android - someone would write an app for that.

/daydreaming ... :(

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Post by _AzMoo »

kristopolous wrote: post #219
gffrd wrote: post #201

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The other day, I was taking a call on my iPhone, over the earpiece, in my office suite's lobby. The connection was rock solid, and then out of nowhere the audio just disappeared, without warning … but the call didn't drop. A few seconds later it returned. The person on the other end said they heard what sounded like a child for a second. I was perplexed. Fast forward a week, and this happens again. I look at the call…

I really want an option like this Enable [ X ] Audio [ ] Phone Calls Because I never, not one single time, wanted a phone call to blast over my car audio. Not once. I can't be the only one that has wanted the car to be a speakerphone exactly 0 times. Heck maybe someone is the opposite. They love terrestrial radio or their CD collection and also the speakerphone feature. Give people options.

Why wouldn't you want that? Do you not take calls in your car?

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Post by bengale »

I think my current BMW is probably going to be peak design for me. All of the driving and climate controls are physical click-y buttons. It still has a touch screen for ancillary stuff that I don't need when driving which is fine, but I don't have to use the touch screen at all when driving.

Sadly it seems they are following the crowd on the new versions, it looks like climate controls have moved onto the touch screen. I won't be glad to "upgrade" to that.

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Post by amelius »

pkolaczk wrote: post #291
thaumasiotes wrote: post #240

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Wikipedia says this about Bluetooth: > In the most widely used mode, transmission power is limited to 2.5 milliwatts, giving it a very short range of up to 10 metres (33 ft). But that's not really how radiation works. You can transmit more by using more power, sure. The louder you shout, the easier it is for people to hear you. You can also receive more by having a bigger antenna. The harder you listen, the more you…

Antennas are not amplifiers. As long as the antenna is correctly tuned to the impedance of the transmitter output stage, it will radiate most of the power of the transmitter, but cannot exceed 100% (it is a passive element, and exceeding 100% would break the laws of conservation of energy). In this case the size of the antenna does not affect the total power emitted and there will be no range gains from using a bigge…

Of course a bigger antenna can pick up more power. Just imagine placing two antennas instead of one. Each one receives a certain amount of power. Two will receive the sum of that power.

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Post by josteink »

kQq9oHeAz6wLLS wrote: post #127
jjkmk wrote: post #109

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Same deal, my Hyundai was stolen 3 times from Sept 2021 to October 2022 when I finally sold it. Was a huge headache.

3 times in a year? I'd be looking to move far, far away.

Yeah. That’s not a car-problem.

That’s living in a lawless neighbourhood kind of problem.

Move somewhere safe. Where cars don’t get stolen. You’ll probably find most other crime statistics beneficial too there.

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Post by GordonS »

Toutouxc wrote: post #284
kristopolous wrote: post #219

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I really want an option like this Enable [ X ] Audio [ ] Phone Calls Because I never, not one single time, wanted a phone call to blast over my car audio. Not once. I can't be the only one that has wanted the car to be a speakerphone exactly 0 times. Heck maybe someone is the opposite. They love terrestrial radio or their CD collection and also the speakerphone feature. Give people options.

I don't think my iPhone has this, but my 2018 Škoda has this. There are exactly these two checkboxes, they say something like "phone" and "audio" and they do exactly that. And this isn't even when pairing, you can bring up the menu anytime and just enable or disable each functionality. I usually drive, so we connect my girlfriend's phone to "audio" so she can be the DJ while I leave my phone connected to "phone" so I…

Same in my 9 year old BMW, I can connect audio, phone, or both.

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Post by misnome »

superice wrote: post #329
flangola7 wrote: post #297

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Bigger antennas can positively pick up more signal. The Mars rovers do not have megawatt radio transmitters, instead we use enormous antennas on Earth.

We use antennas which are incredibly directional for Mars rovers. Compare a regular lightbulb vs a flashlight with a lens. Total light emitted might not be that different, but the intensity at the same distance (or how far the light reaches) is because the beam is focused. That works the same with receiving signal: a giant dish will focus the signal to a central point, and a Yagi-Uda antenna will use a similar phenom…

> a giant dish

So why don't we just use a small dish?

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