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Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by gorpovitch »

Not only the buttons but also a lot of parts which are electric when they really don't have to.

My brother, who has three kids, tried out a SUV which had an electric hatchback, where you have to trigger the trunk closing with a button. With a manual hatchback he could fill all the luggage in the trunk and just slam the door, without any problem. But now the electric hatchback would not close if the car felt there was a luggage in the way.

In the end they had to remove the luggage, close the trunk and fill the trunk from the side doors.

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Post by Kaotique »

Standardised physical controls are one of the best things car designers have ever done. When I did not own a car I rented them on a regular basis. It is amazing that you can just step into a car that you have never driven before, flip some familiar switches, turn some knobs and press some pedals and be on your way. Throwing all that away for some fancy touch screens is just a waste.

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Post by pleb_nz »

rippercushions wrote: post #220
cdepman wrote: post #75

Wonderful. I recently rented a model 3 and found it incredibly frustrating that it required multiple touches to adjust settings that would be a single button press on a more traditional car. Don’t even get me started on the windshield wipers - a total nightmare in winter storms and located on the left stalk? These are safety concerns. As long as humans are operating these dangerous vehicles, I vote for fewer driver d…

I almost didn't buy a Tesla because of my concerns over the lack of controls, but turns out that while driving, it's rarely if ever necessary to touch the screen, because there's voice commands for everything (navigate to X, climate control off, etc). Plus often you don't need to do anything at all: the lights switch on automatically if it's dark, the windshield wipers activate automatically if there's moisture, etc.…

A voice command takes longer to execute than a press or flick of a finger IMO.

It would be interesting to see what the cognitive loads are between a physical movement and a set of voice commands. I remember reading a study that found talking to another person in the vehicle was the equivalent to having had a certain amount of alcohol. I'm sure there's a difference between voice.commands and conversation, but interesting nome the less.

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Post by dontlaugh »

tastysandwich wrote: post #154

When researching family cars recently, I literally avoided the Honda CR-V just because the AC was controlled via the touch screen. There's a "Climate" button, which brings up a screen on the display where you can turn the aircon on/off, up/down, etc. It's just horrendous. Give me my dials. My worst gripe - which all modern cars have - is the aggressive bluetooth auto-connect. If my wife takes the car, it will automat…

Wired CarPlay or Android Auto is much better in this respect.

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by altacc »

rippercushions wrote: post #220
cdepman wrote: post #75

Wonderful. I recently rented a model 3 and found it incredibly frustrating that it required multiple touches to adjust settings that would be a single button press on a more traditional car. Don’t even get me started on the windshield wipers - a total nightmare in winter storms and located on the left stalk? These are safety concerns. As long as humans are operating these dangerous vehicles, I vote for fewer driver d…

I almost didn't buy a Tesla because of my concerns over the lack of controls, but turns out that while driving, it's rarely if ever necessary to touch the screen, because there's voice commands for everything (navigate to X, climate control off, etc). Plus often you don't need to do anything at all: the lights switch on automatically if it's dark, the windshield wipers activate automatically if there's moisture, etc.…

> there's voice commands for everything

Voice commands fail the universal design principle. I haven't tried Tesla's but I hate using voice commands and it's not an option for everyone. Not every language is supported and if you have a heavy accent or, like me, a speech impediment, even the industry leading software with training does not work most of the time. Pushing a button is quicker than speaking, especially if you have to say the same thing multiple times.

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Post by pif »

natch wrote: post #71
pif wrote: post #23

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No, you are missing the point! With a row of buttons, you can count and you do not need visual attention. With a screen, instead, you must look even to understand whether you are on a clickable object at all!

Both can be true. You can have buttons AND screen, like in Tesla for example. Not to mention voice and beyond that even simply automation. Of course some people will say Teslas don’t have buttons, but those people don’t know what they are talking about and can be safely ignored.

Would you mind posting a photo and enlightening us?

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Post by orthoxerox »

wlesieutre wrote: post #148
colordrops wrote: post #138

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As an owner it works great. Windshield wipers have a sensor for automatic control, and if you want to manually adjust, voice recognition is highly accurate these days. I switch between my Prius and Tesla all the time as my wife shares the vehicles, and I much prefer the Tesla controls. But I'll get off of your lawn if you'd like.

Anecdotally the owner I’ve asked about it said it sucks. And he’s a native English speaker. How’s it do with accents? Maybe it’s been improved with hardware upgrades? His is around a 2017 I think.

I imagine it works as well as the famous voice-activated elevator in Scotland.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMS2VnDveP8

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Post by b112 »

kristopolous wrote: post #227
b112 wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish someone would EV a convertible, a glass roof is nice, but a convertible cannot be heavier that all that glass.

What I really want is the Wuling Hong Guang Mini EV Cabrio in the US. Here's some pictures, that thing is so cute https://gmauthority.com/blog/2022/09/gms-wuling-mini-ev-cabr... I'd especially love it as a vacation rental. A Hawaiian trip with that thing would be great.

Heh. Neat little city car, I like it.
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