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Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Post by Kalium »

superfrank wrote: post #174
PedroBatista wrote: post #157

"Bard isn’t currently supported in your country. Stay tuned!" Can't wait to ask "Bard" what's the rationale to "not support" a service like this based on my country.. These "global companies" are so global regarding their revenue and tax schemes, but when something is different than the "business as usual" they turn into hyper local shops. It's just an observation, I'm not really that mad and desperate to try their "…

Not sure where you are, but I always assume that means, "We're doing something that some might consider sketchy and don't want to dedicate resources to figuring out if it's legal outside the US".

I suspect it's more often "We haven't checked yet, and Legal prefers we be cautious until they have time" rather than actively thinking it's something some might consider sketchy.

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Post by caddemon »

rospaya wrote: post #173
pwb25 wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It never cease to amaze me how a software that is just inputs and outputs, can not be "available" in some country if you sell something, then sure goods might have laws. but just text ? lol

Might be localization, PR, scaling, not enough capacity for the new users. I hate it but I can imagine it.

There also could be legal reasons, I have no idea if it's the case here but theoretically I could imagine something like "right to be forgotten" interacting oddly with LLMs.

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Post by dao- »

rospaya wrote: post #173
pwb25 wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It never cease to amaze me how a software that is just inputs and outputs, can not be "available" in some country if you sell something, then sure goods might have laws. but just text ? lol

Might be localization, PR, scaling, not enough capacity for the new users. I hate it but I can imagine it.

> Might be localization

If that's the problem then they're not supplying the right fix. Surely restricting this to users located in the US doesn't prevent people from writing in a language that isn't English. Google should be capable of detecting the language of a query, and potentially rejecting it based on that with an apology.

> PR,

Obviously there must be _some_ reason why they're doing this. Doesn't mean it's a good reason.

> scaling, not enough capacity for the new users.

That would be rather embarrassing for Google.

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Post by dragonwriter »

superfrank wrote: post #174
PedroBatista wrote: post #157

"Bard isn’t currently supported in your country. Stay tuned!" Can't wait to ask "Bard" what's the rationale to "not support" a service like this based on my country.. These "global companies" are so global regarding their revenue and tax schemes, but when something is different than the "business as usual" they turn into hyper local shops. It's just an observation, I'm not really that mad and desperate to try their "…

Not sure where you are, but I always assume that means, "We're doing something that some might consider sketchy and don't want to dedicate resources to figuring out if it's legal outside the US".

With the slow-roll waitlist things, I think the geographical limits are in part, at least, a way of narrowing the applicant space to reduce the wait time, given the limited pace at which they are willing to expand the user pool.

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Post by javiercr »

sho_hn wrote: post #126
hypercube33 wrote: post #119

These limited closed betas seem to really kill hype on a lot of their products, which leads to them not having a lot of use, then google killing them...

To be fair, the beta, invite-only status of GMail was, at the time, the definition of Internet Cool.

On Episode 01 of The Social Radars podcast [1], Paul Buchheit, creator of GMail, explains that the Gmail invite-only beta was actually due to shortage in hardware and difficulties to scale the service, rather than a just a "growth hack". It seems they were running the service for a long time near 100% capacity.

[1] https://open.spotify.com/episode/0oRAHcP9g41jcEzpDtOa4b?si=1...

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Post by shawabawa3 »

tomcar288 wrote: post #179
pwb25 wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It never cease to amaze me how a software that is just inputs and outputs, can not be "available" in some country if you sell something, then sure goods might have laws. but just text ? lol

it's got to be some GDPR or some other crazy law thing.

It's available in the UK which still has GDPR in place (for now)

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Post by xyzelement »

ayende wrote: post #177

I'm using paid Google account, so I'm getting that this isn't available. Makes sense, I'm already a customer, no reason to keep me as such, right?

I am guessing it's about the desire to offer a higher standard of stuff to paid customers (since they may be expecting such and paying for it.)

Bard is completely beta and a raw one at that, not something I'd want confused for a part of a paid offering at this stage.

I get your point as well - I think there's a tension between the two options.

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Post by 908B64B197 »

maxilevi wrote: post #20

“Bard is not available in your country” Why do they even limit access depending on the country? It’s a chatbot, not a financial service.

AI queries are way more computationally intensive than traditional searches.

Bard is probably not optimized and would completely overload the hardware Google has available for it should it be released worldwide.

That just shows how far ahead Microsoft is on that one.

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