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Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Post by sebzim4500 »

Waterluvian wrote: post #80
rcarmo wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, you do have all those French-speaking people going out and about. And all those moose. The UK would have none of that, it would be untidy :)

Actually joking aside, being unable to offer it in French makes some sense as to why they omit a region. Now I want to wander off and find a list of countries where English is the only official language.

Australia springs to mind, and to the surprise of no-one Bard is not available in Australia.

I really get the feeling that Google is terrified of success. They haven't launched a new sucessful product in God knows how long.

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Post by mikedouglas »

wolpoli wrote: post #72
maxilevi wrote: post #20

“Bard is not available in your country” Why do they even limit access depending on the country? It’s a chatbot, not a financial service.

I expect this kind of regional lock from Microsoft, not Google. What is going on?

At this point, I'd flip whatever mental models you have for how 2010-era Microsoft and Google operate.

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Post by marginalia_nu »

antibasilisk wrote: post #91
marginalia_nu wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could simply roll out per language, rather than per country in that case, since language is by its very nature self-selecting.

Speaking as someone who had to decide how to distribute anonymous work, language is extremely difficult to track as even if the system language is set to English, comprehension and literacy are not necessarily at the level you need for the data you get back to be useful. It is much more effective to select for countries in the 95th percentile of the English Proficiency Index.

Right, but due to migration, this is also a problem within regions where a language is the primary language.

Any connection you draw between native language and region is tenuous at best.

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Post by sebzim4500 »

pembrook wrote: post #93
YPPH wrote: post #5

I cannot think of a legitimate basis to discriminate by country.

You've apparently never interfaced with lawyers before. A startup is free to release globally, because nobody will care if they spit out something false, there's no money to extract for penalties and fines. If Google's Bard says one thing wrong in the wrong country, it has the potential to cost the company hundreds of millions or even billions of dollars. In places like the EU, governments see Google as a giant piggy…

Yes, like that startup 'Microsoft' that launched Bing Chat globally a few months ago.

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Post by Takennickname »

Fernicia wrote: post #50
YPPH wrote: post #5

I cannot think of a legitimate basis to discriminate by country.

Whether you agree with it or not, the EU has proved itself to take consistently anti-big US tech stances, so I can see why they might be deterred from releasing to that market without obvious financial benefits.

Ah yes. Because the world is only the US and the EU.

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Post by pembrook »

cypress66 wrote: post #99
pembrook wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You've apparently never interfaced with lawyers before. A startup is free to release globally, because nobody will care if they spit out something false, there's no money to extract for penalties and fines. If Google's Bard says one thing wrong in the wrong country, it has the potential to cost the company hundreds of millions or even billions of dollars. In places like the EU, governments see Google as a giant piggy…

Are both OpenAI (chatgpt) and Microsoft (Bing chat) startups? Because neither had country restrictions.

Perhaps that's why ChatGPT is so overwhelmingly censored. Maybe Google can be more free-wheeling with Bard by keeping in the US for now?

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Post by Satam »

"We're starting to start the beginning of letting people try so they can now apply to our waitlist so they can be emailed that it's their turn to try Bard, the AI experiment."

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Post by surgical_fire »

pembrook wrote: post #93
YPPH wrote: post #5

I cannot think of a legitimate basis to discriminate by country.

You've apparently never interfaced with lawyers before. A startup is free to release globally, because nobody will care if they spit out something false, there's no money to extract for penalties and fines. If Google's Bard says one thing wrong in the wrong country, it has the potential to cost the company hundreds of millions or even billions of dollars. In places like the EU, governments see Google as a giant piggy…

> In places like the EU, governments see Google as a giant piggybank of funding. They know Google will not pull out of any region as large as the EU, so they will use any excuse to introduce fines and penalties. They also know Google can, and will pay. Hence they've hit Google with nearly €10B in fines over the last few years

Those fines were clearly not high enough.

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