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Re: Google Bard waitlist

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It's at https://bard.google.com - I tried to join the waitlist but this is yet another Google service where Google Workspaces accounts simply don't work. Back to GPT-4 then!

Not available in Canada. So I assume it's US only (Edit: US + Britain only).

Also, not available in Germany...

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#72

“Bard is not available in your country” Why do they even limit access depending on the country? It’s a chatbot, not a financial service.

I expect this kind of regional lock from Microsoft, not Google. What is going on?

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post #42
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I am an American living in Spain, running an American company, paying US taxes. I am neither a Spanish citizen nor a permanent resident. Google decided that my accounts are Spanish and switched them. "Bard is not available in your country". My country is the USA. I wonder what's next, my American Google voice and Google Fi phone numbers so i lose US banking access? Be very scared of this Orwellian company.

Other issues aside, is that actually legal? I've always been under the impression that you need to pay local taxes wherever you're working but would be delighted to be proven wrong.

Depends on country specific tax agreements. Worst case is you need to pay taxes to both countries

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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post #46

“Bard is not available in your country” Why do they even limit access depending on the country? It’s a chatbot, not a financial service.

Probably some crazy legal thing, like perhaps you can get it to spit out an ITAR restricted passage of encryption code.

Yeah but other systems are more open. Undoubtedly it is about legal risk management - yet goog should have gotten its lawyers to draft whatever global TOS they needed to protect themselves up front. This has enough visibility and they had the lead time.

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I am an American living in Spain, running an American company, paying US taxes. I am neither a Spanish citizen nor a permanent resident. Google decided that my accounts are Spanish and switched them. "Bard is not available in your country". My country is the USA. I wonder what's next, my American Google voice and Google Fi phone numbers so i lose US banking access? Be very scared of this Orwellian company.

FYI, If you are abroad for longer than a year, they will shutdown call and data access for your Google Fi. Learned the hard way. That said, their technical support was absolutely robotic and useless, and might as well be replaced with Bard, whatever state its in.

They already have (i was sick with covid, walking to a store when i suddenly lost online maps and data access), i am using voice/SMS only for 2FA authentication for all my American business, including banking and brokerages. Perhaps they cannot shut the voice down due to some FCC consequences. Scary.

Re: Google Bard waitlist

#76
What a joke; limited country release to limited group of people. That’s a broken car at the start of the race, not a lot more at this point when your competitors are already full-blown out there.

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#77

"The new A.I. chatbot will be available to a limited number of users in the United States and Britain and will accommodate additional users, countries and languages over time, Google executives said in an interview." So no, no they didn't release it.

> But Google is taking a much more circumspect approach than its competitors, which have faced criticism that they are proliferating an unpredictable and sometimes untrustworthy technology.

It's interesting how they use the AI ethics excuse. Maybe the real problem is that there's isn't as good as the competition, or to their own standards, and they are being careful not to damage their brand by being so behind.

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> This Google Account isn’t supported > Bard does not currently support Google Workspace accounts or when our systems indicate you may be under 18 OpenAI takes my Google Workspace Account just fine. Nice job Google. Locking out a user who is on a >$25 enterprise plan with you. Why is every interaction with Google so stupid? Why can that multi-billion dollar company not deliver any good software?

Because as a paying customer you(and your team) likely will reach for support to get things fixed if they are not working as expected.

An early release is not worth the time and effort for professional support.

OpenAI doesn't have those constraints with a google workspace account.

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post #42
post #2

I am an American living in Spain, running an American company, paying US taxes. I am neither a Spanish citizen nor a permanent resident. Google decided that my accounts are Spanish and switched them. "Bard is not available in your country". My country is the USA. I wonder what's next, my American Google voice and Google Fi phone numbers so i lose US banking access? Be very scared of this Orwellian company.

Other issues aside, is that actually legal? I've always been under the impression that you need to pay local taxes wherever you're working but would be delighted to be proven wrong.

Cannot speak for the post above, but yes, you can work on a different country and still pay taxes on your origin country. Doesn't work for any country or any circumstance though.

Typical case is when you work for a multi-national company and they send you to work in a different country for less than 183 days, you will keep paying taxes in your own country despite your legal employer is now the legal entity in the new country.

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm always fascinated to understand the "why" when something is allowed in the U.S. but not Canada. Especially so when it's also allowed in the U.K. We're basically a perfect (I'm sarcastically winking here) mix of those two countries! I'm guessing it's purely regulatory?

Well, you do have all those French-speaking people going out and about. And all those moose. The UK would have none of that, it would be untidy :)

Actually joking aside, being unable to offer it in French makes some sense as to why they omit a region. Now I want to wander off and find a list of countries where English is the only official language.
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