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Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Post by antibasilisk »

marginalia_nu wrote: post #27
endisneigh wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

basically not all countries speak english as a first language, so it wouldn't make sense to put it in all countries. secondly, staggered rollout is pretty common

You could simply roll out per language, rather than per country in that case, since language is by its very nature self-selecting.

Speaking as someone who had to decide how to distribute anonymous work, language is extremely difficult to track as even if the system language is set to English, comprehension and literacy are not necessarily at the level you need for the data you get back to be useful. It is much more effective to select for countries in the 95th percentile of the English Proficiency Index.

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Post by gcatalfamo »

Fernicia wrote: post #50
YPPH wrote: post #5

I cannot think of a legitimate basis to discriminate by country.

Whether you agree with it or not, the EU has proved itself to take consistently anti-big US tech stances, so I can see why they might be deterred from releasing to that market without obvious financial benefits.

chatgpt didn't have geographical limitations when it came out, greatly aiding its virality.

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Post by pembrook »

YPPH wrote: post #5

I cannot think of a legitimate basis to discriminate by country.

You've apparently never interfaced with lawyers before.

A startup is free to release globally, because nobody will care if they spit out something false, there's no money to extract for penalties and fines.

If Google's Bard says one thing wrong in the wrong country, it has the potential to cost the company hundreds of millions or even billions of dollars.

In places like the EU, governments see Google as a giant piggybank of funding. They know Google will not pull out of any region as large as the EU, so they will use any excuse to introduce fines and penalties. They also know Google can, and will pay. Hence they've hit Google with nearly €10B in fines over the last few years.

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Post by rcarmo »

wrzuteczka wrote: post #88
rcarmo wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I suspect folk who reside in perfectly civilized countries without any geopolitical hindrances to be locked out for a long while--which, given Google's usual inability to reach out across Europe, may mean we'll only have access when it's about to be cancelled.

Still better than Apple! I pay the full price for Apple One but Apple thinks I shouldn't have access to Fitness+. Or Siri, which still doesn't support my language (Polish, 40M speakers) and has problems recognizing my English accent (whereas Google speech recognition works fine).

Well, I'm in Portugal and we don't have true, bona fide, first-party Apple stores. And I've been complaining about that for twenty years...

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Post by diceduckmonk »

cft wrote: post #75
diceduckmonk wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FYI, If you are abroad for longer than a year, they will shutdown call and data access for your Google Fi. Learned the hard way. That said, their technical support was absolutely robotic and useless, and might as well be replaced with Bard, whatever state its in.

They already have (i was sick with covid, walking to a store when i suddenly lost online maps and data access), i am using voice/SMS only for 2FA authentication for all my American business, including banking and brokerages. Perhaps they cannot shut the voice down due to some FCC consequences. Scary.

It feels like Google Fi is in maintenance mode. Someone got their promotion and moved on. I used to this the Deprecated by Google memes were harsh, but that will be the last time I rely on a Google product for work or life.

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Post by [deleted] »

kderbyma wrote: post #38
dna_polymerase wrote: post #6

> This Google Account isn’t supported > Bard does not currently support Google Workspace accounts or when our systems indicate you may be under 18 OpenAI takes my Google Workspace Account just fine. Nice job Google. Locking out a user who is on a >$25 enterprise plan with you. Why is every interaction with Google so stupid? Why can that multi-billion dollar company not deliver any good software?

Google has lost it completely. I realised when no one was bragging about working for Google or applying for Google about 5 or so years ago.....that it was no longer a cool place to work...just politicians with engineering titles.

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Post by cypress66 »

pembrook wrote: post #93
YPPH wrote: post #5

I cannot think of a legitimate basis to discriminate by country.

You've apparently never interfaced with lawyers before. A startup is free to release globally, because nobody will care if they spit out something false, there's no money to extract for penalties and fines. If Google's Bard says one thing wrong in the wrong country, it has the potential to cost the company hundreds of millions or even billions of dollars. In places like the EU, governments see Google as a giant piggy…

Are both OpenAI (chatgpt) and Microsoft (Bing chat) startups? Because neither had country restrictions.

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Post by [deleted] »

tyingq wrote: post #46
maxilevi wrote: post #20

“Bard is not available in your country” Why do they even limit access depending on the country? It’s a chatbot, not a financial service.

Probably some crazy legal thing, like perhaps you can get it to spit out an ITAR restricted passage of encryption code.

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