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Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by gonzoflip »

Spivak wrote: post #299
A4ET8a8uTh0 wrote: post #268

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It did not use too, but it is hard for me to tell where/when the shift happened. All I know for sure is that anyone with mildly stronger views on 1st amendment are called speech absolutists. It is extra annoying, because 'hate speech' is mostly recently made up term to stifle free speech AND, more importantly, does not exist anywhere in US constitution. You can, but it becomes a game of using language that it is hard…

> because 'hate speech' is mostly recently made up term to stifle free speech AND, more importantly, does not exist anywhere in US constitution Which is why dirty commie liberals like me want to get a national hate speech law passed just like other countries have. Canada (which passed in the 1989) Ireland (passed in 1989) New Zeland (passed in 1993) Germany, France, Sweden, Switzerland, Ukraine, UK, Iceland, Denmark…

I find it funny you bring up Ukraine in this conversation, it is considered the 2nd most corrupt country in Europe only behind Russia[1], has a long history of far-right ideologies [2]. And recently during this conflict have supported multiple groups that use literal Nazi imagery, most notably the Azov Regiment, which the Ukraine government are telling us are totally not Nazis despite using a bunch of imagery(such as the Black Sun and the Wolfsangel) that would likely get you arrested in some of the other countries you mentioned. [3]

[1] https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/corruption-index?c... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/14th_Waffen_Grenadier_Division... [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Brigade

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by swayvil »

TRiG_Ireland wrote: post #304

I'm on Mastodon, but I find the experience extremely frustrating. The UI has all the annoyances of Twitter's (which I also dislike), and more besides. It's a fun enough place to mess around and post throwaway jokes, but using it for anything serious would be a mistake: federation means that often only some of the posts in a given thread make it to your server, so often bits of a conversation are silently missing. Thi…

The Mastodon/Twitter format lends itself to a bite-sized form of conversation. Consumed and replied to in a moment.

It optimizes for something I'm sure. Maybe "conversation volume"

It's popular.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by realjhol »

LBJsPNS wrote: post #311
realjhol wrote: post #294

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You're attitude to people is absolutely toxic. Why are you surprised that people side against you?

I'm not surprised. I consider it a badge of honor that neo-nazis, neo-confederates, racists, white supremacists, sexists, kiddy diddlers, et al, side against me. You might consider being concerned if your ideas and attitudes align with those of the aforementioned deplorables. And yes, that would be the correct term. Edit: Calling people by the correct descriptive terms is not smearing. I'm sorry you are confused.

This is all in your head guy. You started throwing all these smears around, and now having done so, you congratulate yourself for having such virtue and integrity for despising these people.

It all just boils down to a fig-leaf for your hatred.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by Pxtl »

DeathArrow wrote: post #329

I don't get what problem Mastodon is trying to solve.

Open-standard social network isn't a worthy problem? Social media solves a real problem, and Mastodon allows users to participate without submitting to the whims of Zuckerberg or Musk.

Yes, Mastodon instances can (and do) have opinionated administrators, but Mastodon is unique among social media in that you can move to another instance without abandoning the entire network altogether.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by LBJsPNS »

redeeman wrote: post #271
bigbillheck wrote: post #213

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Yeah, you don't have to be an actual neonazi, just be friends with and support them and their views.

being labelled neonazi is about as easy as being labelled "libtard". The very left oriented people often have a strong sense of moral superiority, and will directly accuse anyone who does not agree of being a neonazi. in general i would say though, when you are pointing with one finger, 4 are pointing back at yourself (and by this I dont mean you, its an expression)

Except that when you're marching with swastikas, and displaying nazi signs and slogans, it's kind of difficult to claim you're not a nazi. But you keep right on assuming you have a moral position.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by brwck »

nforgerit wrote: post #18

After about 6 months hosting my own little private Mastodon instance, I can say the following things: (1) Whoever cares about that but the atmosphere is nice, cozy, exciting and creative. Zero toxicity and probably several magnitudes more meaningful conversations with people from all around the world. This apparently comes from the kinds of people I could find and connect with. (2) Hosting is relatively easy. I think…

> Zero toxicity and probably several magnitudes more meaningful conversations with people from all around the world.

In other words, you've built yourself a tiny echo chamber. The only way you have "zero toxicity" is that the group is exceedingly small or you force group-think.

> (3) I once saw a post from a German IT mag (heise, I think from November 2022) that claimed that they have more traffic through Mastodon than through any other Social Media thingy.

That's not a good thing. It means that the german IT mag has no readers.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by graypegg »

koheripbal wrote: post #316
graypegg wrote: post #199

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This is an odd minority viewpoint for HN actually. I find most people feel rather empowered by the decentralized nature of mastodon… or email for that matter. Your right to freedom of speech is between you and the government. People aren’t required to publish your work just because you complain. The difference here is you can just hook into the same decentralized system the publisher is using, and subvert them by fin…

> Your right to freedom of speech is between you and the government. This is a commonly parroted error. The First Amendment to the US Constitution which protects freedom of expression is mostly between the gov't and you... ...but the CONCEPT of freedom of speech is an ethical concept that goes well beyond the roll of government. It is about ensuring the rights of minority speech and controversial opinions. Speech tha…

I see you’re coming at this from a moral stance where I do agree with you, it’s not great on a personal level to not be challenged.

But does that apply here? We’re talking about private citizens, running a publication platform.

If you went to your local community newsletter, asked to put in an article saying “this community is full of bigots, and none of you want to hear about it” and they deny including your article, there’s no legal recourse for you.

Sure, there’s the ideals of the marketplace of ideas, but there’s also very real restrictions on speech because society wouldn’t function if everyone was required to hear and consider every voice.

I’m also not American, so I’m no expert here obviously. I could be totally wrong on this and maybe there is legal precedent for forcing a private publication to publish something after some sort of legal free speech complaint.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by krapp »

konart wrote: post #318
krapp wrote: post #214

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>I see you self-identify as a "honkler", which is an explicitly neo-nazi As a Russian who is lost in modern english langauge: does this "honkler" thing has anything to do with https://humungus.tedunangst.com/r/honk ? Also a golang fediverse project.

No: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Clown_World

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by rchaud »

jrm4 wrote: post #274

For what it's worth, my Mastodon experience. Broadly, I think the best use of Mastodon IS to be a Twitter competitor; a noisy town square. What I have seen is -- the disagreeable people on Twitter want to publically fight. They want to push their bad ideas and have everyone listen to them, and thus are willing to get into it. The disagreeable people on Mastodon want to silence others. They're more block happy and don…

Mastodon is not a commercial entity, it doesn't have to compete with Twitter any more than my alumni.university email has to compete with Gmail.

Mastodon offers a simple solution to stay out of the text wars, one that Twitter wouldn't dare offer: "turn off reblogs".

Half the people I follow retweet/boost things I find irrelevant (personally). I can turn that off on Mastodon to reduce the noise. I can't on Twitter because then I might spend less time on the app, robbing them on precious ad revenue.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by toomim »

app4soft wrote: post #156

> Mastodon hit 10M users Not a users, but accounts. 45% of 20 people that took part in my poll[0] has 2..4 accounts on various Mastodon servers (I has 3 accounts). [0] https://fosstodon.org/@app4soft/109885069770027479

And many accounts are not active. I would hazard a guess that of these 10M accounts, less than 1M are active users--making the submission headline very misleading indeed.
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