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Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by FireInsight »

lapcat wrote: post #25
rvz wrote: post #8

10 million 'registered users' not 'daily active users' in 7 years. Even in some of the comments in the post are skeptical about the usage of those registered accounts. In comparison to Twitter (Since Mastodon zealots often pitch it as a 'Twitter alternative' somehow) 7 years after it launched, it had well over 250M+ total users with well over 150M daily actives. [0] Even Nostr has 6M total users in less than 7 years.…

Most of my former Twitter followers/following in the Apple developer ecosystem have migrated to Mastodon and are very active there now. These are the people I joined Twitter for in the first place, back in the 2000s. Mastodon is definitely a Twitter alternative for us. I personally don't care about "sports Twitter" or "political Twitter" or "weird Twitter", etc. They can all stay on Twitter as far I'm concerned. ¯\_(…

as far as weird twitter and progrssive political twitter is concerned, mastodon is a viable alternative don't know about sports, though

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by konart »

nicoburns wrote: post #207
realjhol wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had to leave an instance because the maintainer said pro-life views were forbidden. Didn't matter whether you expressed them or not - the owner had a policy against private opinions. I agree with your point about freedom of association, but let's not pretend this is just limited to racism. And if you support the concept of free association, what do you do when it collides with civil rights law?

The great thing about Mastadon is that you're not actually excluded by being banned from a particular instance, you can go and join an instance that is aligned with your worldview (and as I understand it, still interact with people from other instances).

What do I do if instance A (this is where the person I follow) decides to ban instance B (my instance of choice)?

What if this happens more than once? Should I reregister every month and refollow the same people again and again?

What if I set up my own server and people will decide that some of my toots are not "left" or "progressive" enough?

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by turnsout »

waboremo wrote: post #41
nforgerit wrote: post #18

After about 6 months hosting my own little private Mastodon instance, I can say the following things: (1) Whoever cares about that but the atmosphere is nice, cozy, exciting and creative. Zero toxicity and probably several magnitudes more meaningful conversations with people from all around the world. This apparently comes from the kinds of people I could find and connect with. (2) Hosting is relatively easy. I think…

It's interesting how many Mastodon users talk about small groups as one of the main selling points, because it's something most platforms do very well actually, yes even Twitter. Discord is another very popular place for small groups to connect, and do so meaningfully and without drama. The real problem, and where Mastodon has been tested numerous times on and failed, is scaling to larger groups. When people aren't u…

This is why large instances like mastodon.social are basically a bad idea–at that scale they have all the same content moderation woes as Twitter or Meta.

On a smaller instance, it's much easier for a mod to nip bad behavior in the bud—and less politically fraught, because the moderation decision doesn't have worldwide policy implications. It's the difference between being kicked out of a local coffeeshop vs arrested in the town square.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by realjhol »

LBJsPNS wrote: post #267
realjhol wrote: post #256

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. It includes anyone who is opposes left wing ideas and is effective.

Nah. It includes some of the most disgusting members of society. Curious how you rise so adamantly to their defense.

You're attitude to people is absolutely toxic. Why are you surprised that people side against you?

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by scambier »

crazygringo wrote: post #196
MisterSandman wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is search really that big of a deal? > Outside of the English speaking indie-privacy-tech bubble (and germans seem to be very active on it too) its a ghost land. "Outside of the super-active communities using Mastodon everyday, it is a ghostland."

Yes, search is the main way to find the conversations people are having on a topic. Search is a principal use case. It's not a small extra feature.

Hashtags are the main way to find topics on Mastodon.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by SamoyedFurFluff »

ilyt wrote: post #157
berkes wrote: post #112

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I taste a lot of spite in this comment. It's not entirely wrong: a space with peers is a safe space. It's how e.g. recovery of PTST for veterans or rape-victims work too, I'm told. It's also why clubs have a door-policy. In this case, safe space means both "only likeminded", i.e. gatekeeping - door policy, as tech, policy and features to protect: good privacy defaults, permissioned access, privacy features etc.

> In this case, safe space means both "only likeminded", i.e. gatekeeping - door policy, as tech, policy and features to protect: good privacy defaults, permissioned access, privacy features etc. So in case of anything politic and not say hobby circle - an echo chamber

By this logic isn’t HN an echo chamber or safe space? It’s heavily moderated, to the point where only certain topics are even allowed to be posted (ie community is exposed). For example I can’t post my ballet gossip on hacker news, it would be considered off topic. I could argue hacker news is an echo chamber that doesnt allow for the ballet community relevant interests.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by turnsout »

lazzlazzlazz wrote: post #110

Individual Mastodon instances have already begun exhibiting insane behavior, and relying on someone else's fiefdom isn't for me. Social media should give full control to the user on top of a credibly neutral layer.

Do you have a proposal, or is this just a blanket denunciation of all social media?

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Post by jakelazaroff »

raspberry1337 wrote: post #276
eecc wrote: post #252

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uh-uh-uh-uh, wait a minute, please contain your prejudice. First off, you're talking of a very narrow and US-centric definition of "leftist". Second, it's tiresome to hear this constant whining about "leftists" that cannot tolerate (or in your version, survive free speech) different views. It's simply not true, what doesn't rub well is constant complaints about being disrepsected for maintaining some frankly disrespe…

All freespeech platforms, from 4chan to twitter, are pre-dominantly right wing. All censorship-based platforms, such as reddit or mastodon that has _mods_, are left wing. Secondly, the woke left is the same in the US as it is in Europe. The west is one global entity these days. JK Rowling is hated by swedish leftists and california leftists. Third, "it's simply not true" is not a convincing argument in the face of mi…

Twitter is a free speech platform? Did I just imagine Elon banning unlabeled parody accounts? Did Elonjet’s account get restored? What about Chad Loder, the activist Elon banned at Andy Ngo’s behest?

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by Spivak »

A4ET8a8uTh0 wrote: post #268
Spivak wrote: post #258

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I don’t know why HN seems to have a culture of confusing minority opinions for toxicity and hate. If you are against gay marriage there’s nothing at all toxic or hateful about that. Hell, I know gay people who were against gay marriage when the public debate was at its peak. Where it’s toxic is if any time a gay person talks about wedding planning, posts a meme about the phrase “her wife” having good energy, or share…

It did not use too, but it is hard for me to tell where/when the shift happened. All I know for sure is that anyone with mildly stronger views on 1st amendment are called speech absolutists. It is extra annoying, because 'hate speech' is mostly recently made up term to stifle free speech AND, more importantly, does not exist anywhere in US constitution. You can, but it becomes a game of using language that it is hard…

> because 'hate speech' is mostly recently made up term to stifle free speech AND, more importantly, does not exist anywhere in US constitution

Which is why dirty commie liberals like me want to get a national hate speech law passed just like other countries have.

    Canada (which passed in the 1989)
    Ireland (passed in 1989)
    New Zeland (passed in 1993)
    Germany, France, Sweden, Switzerland, Ukraine, UK, Iceland, Denmark
So I don't know your definition of recent is but it's been around for a bit. And the term "free speech absolutist" just another instance of a very deep rooted fundamental difference between red vs blue which is freedom vs liberty. It crops up all over the place: freedom from vs freedom to, equality vs equity. Both sides actually want free speech, the blue side just argues that speech is more free when it's not stifled by hate.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by SketchySeaBeast »

raspberry1337 wrote: post #276
eecc wrote: post #252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

uh-uh-uh-uh, wait a minute, please contain your prejudice. First off, you're talking of a very narrow and US-centric definition of "leftist". Second, it's tiresome to hear this constant whining about "leftists" that cannot tolerate (or in your version, survive free speech) different views. It's simply not true, what doesn't rub well is constant complaints about being disrepsected for maintaining some frankly disrespe…

All freespeech platforms, from 4chan to twitter, are pre-dominantly right wing. All censorship-based platforms, such as reddit or mastodon that has _mods_, are left wing. Secondly, the woke left is the same in the US as it is in Europe. The west is one global entity these days. JK Rowling is hated by swedish leftists and california leftists. Third, "it's simply not true" is not a convincing argument in the face of mi…

> All freespeech platforms, from 4chan to twitter, are pre-dominantly right wing.

> All censorship-based platforms, such as reddit or mastodon that has _mods_, are left wing.

This seems to be relying on popular belief rather than facts, and making a lot of assumptions in regards to why particular groups would prefer particular forums. If we're drawing spurious correlations 4chan also seems to enjoy a lot more violent and illegal pornography than say reddit - can we draw conclusions from that regarding the right as well?

> Secondly, the woke left is the same in the US as it is in Europe.

You're now defining a sub group of the left. What separates the "woke" left from the regular left. or are they all one and the same in your eyes? And if so, do you think that actually aligns with everyone who calls identifies as left?

> The west is one global entity these days.

Are you American? As a Canadian I say it definitely is not, we're now at an impasse I guess?

> Why do you think all the biggest comedians in the US avoid colleges?

Who are the biggest comedians? And if they are the biggest why would they go to a college when they can fill a stadium.

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