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60 Days to Find a Job or Leave the Country

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Re: 60 Days to Find a Job or Leave the Country

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Post by mantas »

rileymat2 wrote: post #116
mantas wrote: post #110

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With your definition of „human rights“ we can just abolish the term altogether. The beauty of human rights was that it was supposed to be a well-defined set of core things. Which can't be granted, they just shouldn't be stamped on. But now „human rights“ is becoming a very polarised topic with many bits where person A is forced to do provide something to person B because it's „human rights“. Does person A has a „huma…

I think you are making a distinction between positive rights and negative rights; not human rights. If it was supposed to be a a well-defined set of core things, where are you drawing that set from?

IMO human rights is a subset of negative rights.

Can it be a non-questionable human right to force others to provide you something?

Granting people that others will provide them something is fine. But it must be possible to discuss such topics. Human rights, IMO, shall be a very pure set of things that are not up to discussion, even with rather fringe views. Regardless of political quadrant. Of course, some freaks will always question anything. But wide wide majority (think 95% if not 98%) shall sign off on that.

Re: 60 Days to Find a Job or Leave the Country

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Post by mantas »

the_mar wrote: post #112
mantas wrote: post #108

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No, let people in other places live as they're used to and don't get overrun and outpriced of their home.

Your outrage is misplaced. I am an immigrant tech worker, I too can't afford shit in San Francisco. I do not think immigrants are the problem here

SF is a problem is we'd consider any non-San Franciscans as immigrants. And, given size of US, it would be correct. I'm really sorry for the old San Franciscans of the old era. It sucks when your city becomes a magnet of big money.

Re: 60 Days to Find a Job or Leave the Country

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Post by nickd2001 »

As someone who worked in US over 20 yrs ago on H1B... It was a great adventure in a great country with great people. However, the temporary nature of the visa, with having to leave swiftly if you lose your job, combined with being sponsored and therefore beholden to one's employer, really restricts your options and can give a feeling of limbo. It can affect friendships and everything, the feeling that ultimately you're likely to have to leave. Of course, in theory you can go for a green card. In practice I heard tons of horror stories of people sponsored for green card for years, and pressure to work weekends etc, and then laid off when they nearly got it. When I quit the last job I did in US, HR offered to sponsor a green card and acted like I was nuts and turning down a great opportunity when I said "Thanks but no thanks". My team lead totally understood though. Even if that company can be 100% trusted that they aren't just trying to get me to stick around a year or two, who knows the future. If they made less money and had to do layoffs, you're back to square one with the green card. I guess to a lot of Indians and Chinese, USA is sufficiently better than back home in certain ways, they feel its worth sticking it out and trying to get a green card. But my gosh, the stress, pressure, uncertainty, possible wasted years, inability to fully put down roots. Nowadays I'm surprised most Indians and Chinese don't just go for Canada or Europe - seems a lot better systems. And the daft thing about all this... if these H1B workers were given more permanent status sooner, they'd contribute to US economy by buying houses, furthering their career, perhaps starting companies and hiring people. Sure some people ultimately do that starting out from H1B, but it really is difficult. But it was a great experience working in USA and I'm thankful for the privilege. :)

Re: 60 Days to Find a Job or Leave the Country

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Post by fsdjfkaadsfhsd »

Archelaos wrote: post #69
sokoloff wrote: post #6

I sometimes wonder what the "right amount of time" for this would be. Surely 30 days is nowhere near enough. 60 days also feels like too little. 90 days is the typical tourist visa duration; that seems more reasonable as a minimum duration to me. Does it need to be 180 days? 364? I just don't know, but 60 seems too low.

Germany's visa for job search for professionals gives you up to 6 months to find a job. A foreigner who has completed an academic degree in Germany can get up to 18 months afterwards and a foreign researcher who has finished her or his research up to 9 months. For a vocational qualifications it is up to 12 months.[1] These time limits are maxima, but are usually granted for people already living in Germany if their l…

Note as a professional you can get a PR after as little as 21 months

Re: 60 Days to Find a Job or Leave the Country

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Post by the_mar »

mantas wrote: post #122
the_mar wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your outrage is misplaced. I am an immigrant tech worker, I too can't afford shit in San Francisco. I do not think immigrants are the problem here

SF is a problem is we'd consider any non-San Franciscans as immigrants. And, given size of US, it would be correct. I'm really sorry for the old San Franciscans of the old era. It sucks when your city becomes a magnet of big money.

Well, the opposite, as in your city falling in despair sure sucks more.

People wanting to live in San Francisco aren’t the problem, housing red tape and nimbys are

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