Wonder if there are stress tests on cloud storage that account for this possibility by means of adequate insulation or whatever it is that can counteract a solar flare.
Is something wrong with Amazon Photos? I lost 240k photos
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#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
So they might still get their photos back. 240,364 photos is a lot, and none are replaceable. It’s still a lot of stress.
who would rely on only one vendor and repo for his data?
I got told I was insane for backing up github. I clone all our github repos daily, zip them up and stuff them in S3
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#104Re: Is something wrong with Amazon Photos? I lost 240k photos
#105It literally only has been 1 hour since OP posted that thread. I agree with all the points about having backups and/or using better service/self host etc., but IMO it's too early to conclude anything about this incident.
If you pay $15k a month for AWS enterprise support, you will find someone who may or may not be able to help you within 6 months after misinterpreting the problem and having to raise your account manager and wave your hands around.
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#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
who would rely on only one vendor and repo for his data?
Smells like everyone in github I got told I was insane for backing up github. I clone all our github repos daily, zip them up and stuff them in S3
For example, in addition to the copy on GitHub whoever pushed last should have a completely current copy. And everyone else working with the repo should have something pretty current.
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#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Local backups shall be stored in different locations (depends on importance) not reachable by network. The cloud is the server of someone else and not a backup. That's common knowledge among tech people but blaming the victim is not the solution here. These services are marketed as safe, reliable, and not needing backups (in fact sometimes they make it difficult to take backups, even more so for a non-technical use…
Nobody is blaming the victim, they're saying that you should have a backup outside of your cloud provider. I don't think people care enough about SLAs to pay a premium, until something happens to their data. But by then it's too late. The bold warning is cute, but have you seen cigarette packaging in Europe lately?
The warning served its purpose quite well though - the majority of people including smokers concede that smoking is harmful. If they are still smoking despite that, it's on them.
The same cannot be said of cloud services. Very few people outside of tech think that the cloud can fail (whether technical failure or just randomly ban you for potential unspecified violation of ToS), so the same kinds of warnings would be useful to spread awareness.
Re: Is something wrong with Amazon Photos? I lost 240k photos
#109One of my worries that keeps me sleeplessly awake at nights sometimes is the possibility of solar flares wiping out storage/data -- at my bank, on my hard drive and what not. A sufficiently strong solar flare can essentially put us back a few centuries electronically, and a few millenia socially, instantly. Wonder if there are stress tests on cloud storage that account for this possibility by means of adequate insula…
Re: Is something wrong with Amazon Photos? I lost 240k photos
#110This is just a reminder to take a backup of your cloud photos and store it locally (or other cloud provider). For example, with Google Takeout you can get a ZIP file with all your photos and videos from Google Photos.
That makes no sense. If you have backups locally, why store them on the cloud?